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Old 07-15-2008, 09:19 PM
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Very unprofessional postal worker told me to "Stop waving that paper in my face" when I showed her the DMM after she said I couldn't have tape

I talked to the manager and she let me ship it. Take that! Flat rate is NOT for flat documents, go learn what FLAT RATE means
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Old 07-15-2008, 11:33 PM
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This guy got really pissed at me for not assembling the package before coming to the post office.
"No you can't use our tape"
"Sorry I ran out. Ok fine, I'll buy some *points to tape for sale*"
Pause "You have to have your package ready before blah blah blah"
Sorry mister, I ran out of the flat rate envelopes. Do you expect me to go back home, assemble the package, and come back?

Couple days later nicer lady helped secure envelope with tape.
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Old 08-19-2008, 11:14 AM
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I'm feeling the PO pain.

Went to the post office yesterday to ship some jeans w/ this method. (they were size 38 and kinda bulky in the package, but they were closed w/o tape) When I handed the package to the PO attendant, he taped it w/ the tape that had Post Office printed all over it.

However, I didn't have enough copies of the shipping ticket, so I left to get more. When I got back the PO lady said that I couldn't have tape on the flat rate envelopes. I told her that I didn't tape it, the other PO worker did. So she changed her story and told me that you can't change the shape of the flat rate envelopes. I proceeded to discuss this with her until she finally let me ship the package.

The shipping w/ flat rate envelope was ~$11.00. The box would have cost me ~$35.00 for the same weight.

So at the same post office, I've been told several different rules concerning flat rate envelopes.
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Old 08-19-2008, 11:48 AM
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I'm feeling the PO pain.

Went to the post office yesterday to ship some jeans w/ this method. (they were size 38 and kinda bulky in the package, but they were closed w/o tape) When I handed the package to the PO attendant, he taped it w/ the tape that had Post Office printed all over it.

However, I didn't have enough copies of the shipping ticket, so I left to get more. When I got back the PO lady said that I couldn't have tape on the flat rate envelopes. I told her that I didn't tape it, the other PO worker did. So she changed her story and told me that you can't change the shape of the flat rate envelopes. I proceeded to discuss this with her until she finally let me ship the package.

The shipping w/ flat rate envelope was ~$11.00. The box would have cost me ~$35.00 for the same weight.
So at the same post office, I've been told several different rules concerning flat rate envelopes.


How so??
The flat rate envelope is 4.75 regardless of the weight anywhere in the US APO.
Flat Rate BOX are 9.25 or 12.95 regardless of weight.
Print out the DNN and be done with it.
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Old 08-25-2008, 02:06 PM
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How so??
The flat rate envelope is 4.75 regardless of the weight anywhere in the US APO.
Flat Rate BOX are 9.25 or 12.95 regardless of weight.
Print out the DNN and be done with it.

It was International flat rate to Germany.
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Old 08-25-2008, 02:13 PM
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It was International flat rate to Germany.
I ship Express International Flat rate, and I charge 29.00 S&H.
The actual cost is usually a bit less than this:
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Old 08-25-2008, 02:22 PM
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I sent the package with "Priority Mail® International Flat-Rate Envelope".

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Thanks for the help....this will help me make a more informed decision about shipping internationally.
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I sent the package with "Priority Mail® International Flat-Rate Envelope".

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Thanks for the help....this will help me make a more informed decision about shipping internationally.
Read the seller and shipping sticky here.
You are not protected by Paypal or insured that way.
Just an FYI.
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Read the seller and shipping sticky here.
You are not protected by Paypal or insured that way.
Just an FYI.
I wish I would have read that before I shipped international.

Thank You for the help.
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:12 PM
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this might be a really dumb question but what are the dimensions of the priority flat rate envelopes everyone is using?
i tried with a thin women's pair (following the pic instructions) and couldn't get them to fit for the life of me...maybe i had the wrong size envelope?
The important thing is to keep trying if it doesn't fit quite right the first time. Some jeans work better lengthwise in the Tivek, some work better widthwise. Sometimes you have to modify how they are folded. I just shipped a pair of size 32 thick TR and it took me a few tries before the Tivek would fit.
It is annoying how the post office workers are so varied on the whole tape issue. I believe most are just doing what their supervisor's told them were the rules, though. One P.O. I went to even had a notice up about how tape wasn't allowed
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Old 09-17-2008, 11:14 AM
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THANK-YOU!!! I tried this a couple weeks ago with a pair of jeans that were a sz 26 & they fit perfectly. I now have a pair of Frankie B sz 10 WIDE-Leg Jeans & it took me 30 mintues refolding every which way to get them to fit. They finally did after I folded some of the inner leg & crotch inward, & just kept rolling into it made a flat rectangle. If people can get men's jeans to fit in there, then ANYTHING is possible.

Also, I wondering do you guys tape the pull-tab on the top of the flat rate envelope where it says "Pull To Open"??

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Old 09-29-2008, 04:04 PM
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THANK-YOU!!! I tried this a couple weeks ago with a pair of jeans that were a sz 26 & they fit perfectly. I now have a pair of Frankie B sz 10 WIDE-Leg Jeans & it took me 30 mintues refolding every which way to get them to fit. They finally did after I folded some of the inner leg & crotch inward, & just kept rolling into it made a flat rectangle. If people can get men's jeans to fit in there, then ANYTHING is possible.

Also, I wondering do you guys tape the pull-tab on the top of the flat rate envelope where it says "Pull To Open"??
I tape over the entire "Pull open" flap. I also tape over the back of the package for added protection...so the entire envelope is taped I go tape crazy on my flat rate envelopes. I'm not as 'pro' as Pam, Joan or Mike, so mine definitely do not close on their own without tape. Although it's funny that I have been folding my jeans the same way before I ever read this sticky...I think my problem is that I never put them into a Tyvek before the flat rate so I always taped all over in case of puncturing. However last time, I inserted into a Tyvek first and it was very helful!

I am currently stuffing a mens Billy Super T sz 32 into the Priority Flat Rate for International. It is NOT without effort though...

ETA: My post office is GREAT! They know me since I've been going there for over 10 years. They don't harass me about anything and are very helpful. They have even filled out forms for me when I didn't have time or if I didn't have one ready. I always remember them when it's Christmas!

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What's the highest weight you can put in the flat rate envelopes in terms of oz?
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Old 12-23-2008, 10:45 AM
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Canada - Flat Rate Envelopes

FYI and in response to the previous poster who said "why can't Canada have flat rate envelopes" - I recently discovered that we do. They are xpresspost prepaid flat rate envelopes and they are the same size as the flat rate envelopes described above (9.5 x 12"). Price for Canada is $11.99, Price for the US is 15.75 and price for international is $45.80 (). I haven't tried one yet but I think I will next time. Last package I sent to US cost me $24.00 for xpresspost and I had to buy my bubble envelope. I could have saved $10. - would have been really nice since it was a trade.
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FYI and in response to the previous poster who said "why can't Canada have flat rate envelopes" - I recently discovered that we do. They are xpresspost prepaid flat rate envelopes and they are the same size as the flat rate envelopes described above (9.5 x 12"). Price for Canada is $11.99, Price for the US is 15.75 and price for international is $45.80 (). I haven't tried one yet but I think I will next time. Last package I sent to US cost me $24.00 for xpresspost and I had to buy my bubble envelope. I could have saved $10. - would have been really nice since it was a trade.

Wow, thanks
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FYI, there is now a new Priority Mail Flat Rate Small Box which is now the same price as the Priorit Mail Flat Rate Envelope. The dimensions are 5-3/8” x 8-5/8” x 1-5/8”, which should fit a pair of jeans if folded really tight and small. That would now eliminate in having to use the Flat Rate Envelope (which I have been using for the last year with no hassles from my local PO). Also since it is now a box as oppsoed to envelopes, we may be able to ship Priority Mail Int'l with the small flat rate box since boxes do having tracking (while the flat rate envelope PMI does not) and should satisfy Paypal/eBay requirements for Seller protection.
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^oh wow, I didn't realize the boxes have tracking! I'm still skeptical about a pair of jeans fitting in there though!
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I was able to stuff a Diesel Liv 8FC 24 X 32 pair into the the small priority mail flat rate so IT WILL WORK, just won't work for MOST larger and thicker pairs.

May be best for small sizes of jeans or lighter weight denim (ie not so thick denim material) and of course shirts and other small things you can fold and pack tightly, but larger pairs would still require the flat rate envelopes.
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My first package did not work so had to send it out in just the tyvek.

Second time, I managed to put everything in the tyvek then the flat rate envelope.

Do the jeans turn out fine being all scrunched up in the tight envelope? (Hope the buyer understands...)
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FYI and in response to the previous poster who said "why can't Canada have flat rate envelopes" - I recently discovered that we do. They are xpresspost prepaid flat rate envelopes and they are the same size as the flat rate envelopes described above (9.5 x 12"). Price for Canada is $11.99, Price for the US is 15.75 and price for international is $45.80 (). I haven't tried one yet but I think I will next time. Last package I sent to US cost me $24.00 for xpresspost and I had to buy my bubble envelope. I could have saved $10. - would have been really nice since it was a trade.
I hate to burst your bubble but according to Canada Post's website, prepaid envelopes are for documents only They said:
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Prepaid envelopes are flat rated and available for documents only. Coverage for loss or damage does not apply.
Canada Post - Xpresspost™-International (3rd paragraph under #2. I think the only way to have a prepaid box is if you sell on ebay which is really annoying. If they can have it for ebay sellers they should have it for everyone!
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^ Canada Post is most of the time absolute bullshit. And their workers too (in my experience anyway).
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I have mailed items (cell phone charger and books) in a flat rate envelope in Canada. My PO actually told me to do that instead of in a small box because it was cheaper. So... they are really inconsistent.
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I hate to burst your bubble but according to Canada Post's website, prepaid envelopes are for documents only They said:


Canada Post - Xpresspost™-International (3rd paragraph under #2. I think the only way to have a prepaid box is if you sell on ebay which is really annoying. If they can have it for ebay sellers they should have it for everyone!
That's weird. I always ship stuff in them besides documents. I usually take the smallest one about $8 within Canada, $12 to USA. It is very hard to stuff things in it, but I have managed to fit a pair of jeans in it twice.
My Post Office recommends it. I have never shipped documents in it, always clothing, and I have never had a problem.

PS: how can you fit length size paper in the smallest Xpresspost anwyay? if it were a "document" i'd assume they wouldn't want the papers folded.

IMO it is the best way to ship (plus if you get the Business pack, comes with 4 you save 5%). Doesnt seem like much, but if you ship constantly it adds up!
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Can somebody post step by step folding methods with pictures? I always have the hardest time fitting jeans into those flat rate envelopes without them being bulky and I ALWAYS need tape. But whenever I get packages from fellow AFers, I notice they are so smooth and flat...please somebody show a step by step process of folding!
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