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Old 04-23-2012, 10:10 PM
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Need Authentification ASAP! Ebay removed my listing, so need a double opinion!

I buy and sell all the time on Ebay, have over 800 feedback, and I am like 99% sure these are authentic Rock & Republic older style Anthrax Skull jeans, but ebay removed my listing because of a "trademark violation" for them. I need second opinions on these so I can try to fight this to get it removed from my account. Fake R&R's are usually really easy to spot, especially older style ones. Everything on these is right, even the rivets all the way down to the YKK zipper, and all the inside tags. All help is appreciated and any links to help verify these are authentic would be greatly appreciated, ebay wants an arm and a leg to "prove" items are authentic.


Women's Rock & Republic Kiedis Skull Anthrax Dark Wash Bootcut Flare Size 27 - ClasPics
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....? Any idea, I am 99% sure they are real, but ebay seems to think otherwise. I need to get my account cleared up asap so I can start listing again.
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looks fake to me I have this pair but in the Berlin cut, also in a size 27. I've never seen this wash photograph that streaky, and also the tag looks like the wrong material. It looks more smooth and glossier than authentic tags. Also, another thing is the stitching next to the tag. Fake pairs usually have sloppy and sparse stitching going on, while real pairs have even tight stitching. The back wing logo is also stitched on poorly w/ stitches that aren't even straight and have an extra diagonal stitch at the top. Also the rivets have R's that are too fat at the bottom.
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I am not sure but from iPhone they don't look authentic to me.. either they were mishandled and altered in the hips and waist which resulted in bad stitching.. Yes, wash is streaky and the stitching on the crown on the top looks off to me. Please wait for our mod to confirm
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The only thing I can see that you guys are talking about is the sloppy stitching, but as you can see from the pictures its a very old pair, and most of the stitching is either loose or coming out partially so it looks bad. I have seen tons of fake rocks before and this is beyond what I think they are capable of producing. I also found pretty much the same pair in the photo guide here and the logo on the back pocket looks dead on. They also may have been samples or a pair of irregulars because of the color or wash? They just don't seem fake to me, especially handling them in person the denim feels and looks better than it does in the pictures.


So what about this pair then, its identical to mine in every way?
Rock & Republic Kiedis in Anthrax Skull sz 27 | eBay

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I'm looking at the 2nd auction again from the phone and it's not the same as from the big screen, but these look fake. As for your stitching (1st pair) no, it couldn't have come apart like that with time.. If your pair will be confirmed fake, it's quite a good one and I'm a little surprised that your listing was pulled off when other obvious fake ones are still floating around. Someone worked hard ..
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I'm looking at the 2nd auction again from the phone and it's not the same as from the big screen, but these look fake. As for your stitching (1st pair) no, it couldn't have come apart like that with time.. If your pair will be confirmed fake, it's quite a good one and I'm a little surprised that your listing was pulled off when other obvious fake ones are still floating around. Someone worked hard ..
I messaged the person who has that listing and they said they are a member here and assured me they were authentic or have been authenticated from this forum. I am not sure, but I would really like this figured out as ebay is being pretty lame, and as you said if they are fake they are pretty good fakes at that. The majority of the time the wash/cut/color on the tags NEVER matches what they actually are, and on fakes most of the time they all say they are the same pair regardless of what style fake they tried to make.
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The only thing I can see that you guys are talking about is the sloppy stitching, but as you can see from the pictures its a very old pair, and most of the stitching is either loose or coming out partially so it looks bad. I have seen tons of fake rocks before and this is beyond what I think they are capable of producing. I also found pretty much the same pair in the photo guide here and the logo on the back pocket looks dead on. They also may have been samples or a pair of irregulars because of the color or wash? They just don't seem fake to me, especially handling them in person the denim feels and looks better than it does in the pictures.


So what about this pair then, its identical to mine in every way?
Rock & Republic Kiedis in Anthrax Skull sz 27 | eBay
There are plenty of good fakes out there. A lot of fake pairs I've seen get everything on the tag right, but it's the material of the tag that throws it off, like the one on your pair. Also..yes this is an old pair, but like I said, I have this same exact pair, just in another cut, but authentic R&R's don't have poor stitching whether they're samples or irregulars. I have samples, and I have irregulars, but none are stitched that poorly. The second link you included isn't even an Anthrax wash. Anthrax does not have those whiskering marks going on in the front like that. I still say fake, but wait for Cyn.
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They are 100% fake, sorry.
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Alright, well its just annoying how the one pair that I had got removed and messed up my account when its a good fake that I wasnt aware of, BUT there are tons of fakes on ebay that NEVER get reported, or there are people who sell fakes ALL the time and never get caught....
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http://www.authenticforum.com/true-r...ng-caught.html

Referencing the above thread. This is the problem with the eBay reporting system, majority of the people who are reporting stuff do not know how to properly authenticate, they just like to report stuff. eBay doesn't know what kind of experience they have in authenticating. They could be disgruntled buyers, fake sellers, people who are bored and looking to cause trouble, people who think they know how to authenticate but do not etc.

Once the items are pulled down by eBay due to these inaccurate authenticators it is extremely difficult to get the items reinstated. There is 1 person who goes around reporting tons of Coach bags, she reported 1 of mine and at least 1 other forum members bag as fake. Both bags were real. When I contacted eBay to try and get my bag reinstated it was impossible. They wanted receipts from Coach which I could not possibly provide them with since the bag was on consignment and the person had thrown the receipts away long ago.

It is actually easier to fight a VeRO pull down by the rights owners, than to fight a pull down from an ebay member. With the rights owners you can actually contact them, talk to them, file lawsuits against them. With an eBay member pull down you do not know who has reported you, ebay does not allow you to contact them, there is no way to file a lawsuit to get your item reinstated.

This is also why unless you are 100% sure an item is authentic you should not list it. 99% does not cut it. If you are not absolutely sure you are guessing at best.
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Well I guess everything I have learned is a lie lol. I am definitely going to avoid rocks unless they were mine and I know where they came from, its kind of pointless now anyways since kohls ruined them. Thanks for all the help guys, I should have posted them here in the first place.
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