This is creepy... - AuthenticForum
 
AuthenticForum
  Register FAQ Members List Arcade Search Chat Mark Forums Read Advertise  
Register

 
 
General Discussion Waste away the workday chatting about anything & everything.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 06-16-2009, 09:30 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Flitting about the midwest
Posts: 21,191
Feedback: (170)
This is creepy...

This guy earned an accompanying degree at my undergrad (where his wife was a grad violin major) and I used to see him around...also, one of my good friends went to UCSB with him for undergrad! Just shows you that anyone can turn out to be a sketchball

FBI: Ann Arbor man went to Ohio for sex with girls | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press

Quote:
An Ann Arbor man has been charged with having sexual activity with two 12- and 13-year-old girls in a Toledo parking garage, a spokesman at the Cincinnati office of the FBI said today.


David Jeremy Zobel, 32, who according to a University of Michigan Web site is a pianist for the college’s Men’s Glee Club, is also the music director at St. Luke’s Episcopal Church in Ypsilanti.


He was arrested Friday by FBI agents and Ann Arbor police at his apartment at 211 N. Main in Ann Arbor, FBI Special Agent Michael Brooks said today.


Zobel is charged with interstate travel to engage in sexual activities with minors and appeared before a U.S. magistrate in Michigan on Friday to determine whether a bond would be set and to decide if he’ll be extradited to Ohio. Brooks said he did not know the outcome.


If found guilty of the charge, Zobel could be sentenced to 30 years in prison.


Brooks said Zobel denies the charge. The FBI did not say whether he had an attorney.


Brooks said, according to an FBI complaint filed June 2 at the U.S. District Court, Southern District in Dayton, Ohio, that Zobel picked up the two minor girls in Xenia, Ohio, and took them to Toledo.


The complaint alleges that Xenia police identified Zobel using a MySpace account address that Zobel used to communicate with the girls, along with the records of text messages Zobel had sent to one of the girls, Brooks said.


On June 9, FBI agents searched Zobel’s home and found sexually explicit photographs of both girls on a camera.


According to the U-M Web site, Zobel is originally from California and is a conductor and pianist. The site described him as a musician of eclectic tastes who has appeared throughout the nation as a soloist, collaborator, conductor and singer.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 06-16-2009, 09:31 AM
Charlotte's Avatar
Denim God
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 3,965
Feedback: (2)
I had a woodshop teacher kinda like that
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 06-16-2009, 10:00 AM
korobatsu's Avatar
Denim God
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 5,192
Feedback: (2)
Quote:
The site described him as a musician of eclectic tastes ...
You can say that again.
__________________
In the gay world, our currency is looks--and I'm broke.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 06-16-2009, 10:59 AM
bluemay1's Avatar
Denim God
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 9,825
Feedback: (90)
Creepy -- we had a softball coach like that in high school...
__________________
MARG wants TR Joey PINK Rainbows DUC or Lonestar 25/26; AG Tights in Rosebud 26/27
Selling: Anthro Stuff and TR Jeans on eBay
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 06-16-2009, 11:20 AM
missmk's Avatar
Denim God
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 9,935
Feedback: (18)
When I was in middle school our PE teacher was arrested in the middle of the day for child porn. hollllllla.
__________________
WANTED BEFORE WINTER:
-Fitted Leather Blazer, any brand, Small, black or dark brown
-Paige skinnies in Eclipse/Dark Resin/Other Rinse wash 27
-Fitted black blazer, size 4 or 6, any brand.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 06-16-2009, 11:27 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 3,407
Feedback: (2)
Quote:
Zobel is charged with interstate travel to engage in sexual activities with minors
I did not know that interstate travel to do so, was the actual infraction. I would have thought the act itself was... :/
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 06-16-2009, 11:29 AM
idalis's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Westchester, NY
Posts: 34,070
Feedback: (61)
This crap happens all the time. My brother's history teacher (male) in high school got caught in a police sting soliciting a teenage boy.

The crossing state lines makes in more severe I believe.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 06-16-2009, 12:32 PM
nstyle's Avatar
Denim Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,675
Feedback: (46)
There are definitely some sick people out there!!!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 06-16-2009, 12:34 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Flitting about the midwest
Posts: 21,191
Feedback: (170)
Quote:
Originally Posted by korobatsu View Post
You can say that again.
ok, I lol'ed...

he was also one of the staff accompanists for the MPulse program (which is basically what happened when they took the Interlochen all-state program for high school kids and moved it down to Ann Arbor)...and probably had a lot of quality time with 14-year-old girls
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 06-16-2009, 03:15 PM
Denim Fan
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: a2
Posts: 15
Feedback: (0)
I know a couple of guys in Men's Glee Club... wonder if they knew him well/ at all. What a creep.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 06-16-2009, 03:50 PM
R&RFreak's Avatar
Denim God
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 4,140
Feedback: (10)
As sick as this bastard is...wassup with the kids these days? How about the parents monitoring their kid's online activities, especially when it comes to social networks like Facebook or Myspace?
__________________
Wish List: Neil Tangled Lines, Floyd Arion, Taylor Opium, Taylor Iradium all in size 34. TR Billy in Cattledrive in a size 33 too!
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 06-16-2009, 03:57 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Flitting about the midwest
Posts: 21,191
Feedback: (170)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mhm88 View Post
I know a couple of guys in Men's Glee Club... wonder if they knew him well/ at all. What a creep.
wait, who do you know? I was a fixture at most of the MGC parties when I was in undergrad and a lot of the SoM guys were also in glee club
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 06-16-2009, 05:13 PM
avatar's Avatar
Drunk Friend
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: L.E.S. (Artistes)
Posts: 11,408
Feedback: (5)
Quote:
Originally Posted by buddha View Post
I did not know that interstate travel to do so, was the actual infraction. I would have thought the act itself was... :/
crossing state lines makes it a federal offense.
__________________
cintra wilson is my hero

Quote:
Originally Posted by brody
Larger women eat up designer good with the same ferocity as smaller women, if not sometimes more.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 06-16-2009, 07:20 PM
shelley's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: NASCARolina
Posts: 15,886
Feedback: (31)
If you're going to molest some kids keep in your own state, people. Sheesh.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 06-16-2009, 07:37 PM
idalis's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Westchester, NY
Posts: 34,070
Feedback: (61)
Quote:
Originally Posted by avatar View Post
crossing state lines makes it a federal offense.
that's what i was going to say, but i wasn't 100% positive
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 06-16-2009, 07:40 PM
zephyr7's Avatar
Denim God
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sunset Beach, CA
Posts: 10,772
Feedback: (1)
My PE teacher in HS was arrested for sleeping with a few of the girls in my grade (I found out later who the girls were. Ew). I had always thought he was cool too, he always gave me As.
__________________
I'd love:
Hudson Collin in Adelaide (27)
AG "The Legging" in any AGed wash (27)
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 06-17-2009, 07:57 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 3,407
Feedback: (2)
No I understand jurisdiction, I just find it interesting the act of travel before the actual crime can qualify. For example, if a person kidnapped someone and took him/her hostage while crossing state lines that makes sense to me. But if that same person drove to a different state to kidnap someone but never leaving the state I did not think it would apply on a federal level...
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 06-17-2009, 11:23 AM
avatar's Avatar
Drunk Friend
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: L.E.S. (Artistes)
Posts: 11,408
Feedback: (5)
Quote:
Originally Posted by buddha View Post
No I understand jurisdiction, I just find it interesting the act of travel before the actual crime can qualify. For example, if a person kidnapped someone and took him/her hostage while crossing state lines that makes sense to me. But if that same person drove to a different state to kidnap someone but never leaving the state I did not think it would apply on a federal level...
the act of sex with a minor is illegal in state X but not necessarily under federal law. the act of engaging in interstate commerce to do so makes it a federal problem, as they have taken an interest in eliminating this kind of activity.

federal prison/sentencing is far worse than state prison/sentencing, so generally these cases are taken by the feds (and the law made to do so).

see: 4 year old girl raped, 1 year prison sentence.

relevant statute:
18 U.S.C. § 2423(b) Travel With Intent To Engage in Illicit Sexual Conduct.— A person who travels in interstate commerce or travels into the United States, or a United States citizen or an alien admitted for permanent residence in the United States who travels in foreign commerce, for the purpose of engaging in any illicit sexual conduct with another person shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.
__________________
cintra wilson is my hero

Quote:
Originally Posted by brody
Larger women eat up designer good with the same ferocity as smaller women, if not sometimes more.
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 06-17-2009, 02:24 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 3,407
Feedback: (2)
^
but still I'm surprised no one has challenged this.

how does one define "for the purpose of..."

So if I drive to jersey because I need a good laugh that can only be accomplished by how jersey guidos talk...and while there I remember someone who is jailbait and I call her up and hypothetically we engage in some activity that I get busted for, would the federal charges stick?
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 06-17-2009, 02:31 PM
brody's Avatar
Denim God
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 8,530
Feedback: (4)
"Hypothetically", of course.
Reply With Quote
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 06-17-2009, 02:59 PM
avatar's Avatar
Drunk Friend
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: L.E.S. (Artistes)
Posts: 11,408
Feedback: (5)
Quote:
Originally Posted by buddha View Post
^
but still I'm surprised no one has challenged this.

how does one define "for the purpose of..."

So if I drive to jersey because I need a good laugh that can only be accomplished by how jersey guidos talk...and while there I remember someone who is jailbait and I call her up and hypothetically we engage in some activity that I get busted for, would the federal charges stick?
it requires intent. how would this be challenged? intent is a material part of a LOT of crimes - it's not just this. there is no intent requirement if you were to go abroad and do it - having sex with a minor abroad is illegal and you can be arrested here upon your return no matter what. as far as interstate commerce goes, it requires intent.
__________________
cintra wilson is my hero

Quote:
Originally Posted by brody
Larger women eat up designer good with the same ferocity as smaller women, if not sometimes more.
Reply With Quote
  #22 (permalink)  
Old 06-17-2009, 03:10 PM
kimkeo's Avatar
Denim Fan
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 13
Feedback: (0)
when i was in highschool my female teacher was arrested for childporn ...
__________________
Men are like parking spots, the good ones are taken and the free ones are handicapped.
Reply With Quote
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 06-19-2009, 01:42 AM
Dniceltr's Avatar
Jean Junkie
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Fremont, CA
Posts: 2,922
Feedback: (1)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlotte View Post
I had a woodshop teacher kinda like that
It's always wood shop class ...
__________________
hey
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:21 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72