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Old 12-09-2008, 07:47 AM
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Pregnancy myths vs facts?

I would post this in a pregnancy forum but a lot of those women are crazy pregnancy nuts and I know I would not get "real" answers from them.

The only "do not do" my doctor gave me (aside from smoking/drinking) is to not eat deli meat, but I've had friends docs say don't eat leftovers/sushi/peanut products/soy/cheese/cookie dough/yadda/yadda/yadda. I want to be safe but I also want to EAT. What kind of things did you avoid during your pregnancy and WHY?

My $.02 says that the popularity of these "don't touch anything with bacteria" pregnancy forums form a direct correlation with the rise of peanut allergies, but I have no medical expertise.
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:07 AM
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I have a couple of pregnant/new mother family friends at the moment (one who insists that her daughter calls me "Uncle Geoff" even though I am only 24 FFS). They say that the seafood should be avoided because of the potential for (fetal) mercury poisoning.

I think they're being a bit paranoid...according to this link some types of seafood can be enjoyed in moderation even when pregnant (as they should be enjoyed in moderation even when you aren't pregnant because, well, mercury sucks).

Of course, when it comes down to it, it's your baby's health and your choice.

I'll let the more learned comment on the other stuff.
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There is evidence that eating peanuts during pregnancy could contribute to peanut allergies but it's not a guarantee. My mom didn't eat peanuts with me and I'm allergic, and she did with my younger sister, who's not allergic.

I'd say avoid raw foods with high chances of bacteria (like deli meat, raw sushi, and cookie dough). You could still eat the cooked sushi thought right, like unagi? And I personally wouldn't worry about peanut butter as long as you do'nt eat it like, everyday. (There are a lot of other nut butters out there!). And same with soy.
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My doctor really didn't give me a laundry list of DON'Ts - he basically said women have been having healthy babies for centuries just about everything is OK in moderation. I'm actually surprised your doctor told you about Deli Meat, thats kinda an "old school" one

I personally chose to avoid:

Mass amounts of coffee (I had one cup a day)
Raw Sushi
Alcohol
Raw Cheeses
Fish with high levels of mercury
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:24 AM
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I've never even heard of the deli meat one.
I ate anything I wanted. Of course I avoided coffee and alcohol.
I still drank my daily Dr.Pepper, ate fish, peanut butter even raw cookie dough on occasion.
My Doctor never gave me a list of what not to eat. Only what medicines not to take.

All three of my children are perfectly normal and healthy. No allergies of any kind.
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:28 AM
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Deli meat is full of preservatives. While pregnant, I had to eat only fresh foods (no raw meat). Stuff with preservatives made me hurl. Fast food too was the worst especially during morning sickness.
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:32 AM
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The biggest offender is actually soft cheeses in terms of bacteria. Deli meats shouldn't cause harm in and of themselves, but they are often loaded with nitrates and other not-so-great preservatives. Occasionally they're ok though.

I ate peanut butter in all six pregnancies and have no children with peanut allergies (Emaan is yet to be seen, but I'm pretty sure).

I'm with MaryP1; moderation is key, and avoid the really nasty stuff.



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Old 12-09-2008, 08:34 AM
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I ate pretty much anything I wanted except tuna

I still drank coffee, but only one cup per day instead of the 20 cups I could drink

I've also never heard of the deli meat one....
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Deli meat is commonly linked to listeria, really bad for preganacy, as it can cause miscarriages. In Canada we actually had a major outbreak this year, (Maple Leaf foods), and quite a few companies have had recalls. I'd look that one up and make a decision on your own, but that is the reason for the risk, and the major the reason why it's avoided. It is recommended that if you do want to eat deli meats, you reheat them until they are very hot, to kill any bacteria.
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^ Yep. Deli meats and soft, raw cheeses have the same risk. Most places take good care of deli meat, but it's hard to tell which don't.



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I've never even heard of the deli meat one.
I ate anything I wanted. Of course I avoided coffee and alcohol.
I still drank my daily Dr.Pepper, ate fish, peanut butter even raw cookie dough on occasion.
My Doctor never gave me a list of what not to eat. Only what medicines not to take.

All three of my children are perfectly normal and healthy. No allergies of any kind.
^ This is me to a T all the way down to the Dr. Pepper.
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Deli meat is commonly linked to listeria, really bad for preganacy, as it can cause miscarriages. In Canada we actually had a major outbreak this year, (Maple Leaf foods), and quite a few companies have had recalls. I'd look that one up and make a decision on your own, but that is the reason for the risk, and the major the reason why it's avoided. It is recommended that if you do want to eat deli meats, you reheat them until they are very hot, to kill any bacteria.
most are also are potent in nitrates, which are carcinogens. lunch meat twice a week increases your colorectal cancer risk by about 30%, if i remember correctly. not sure if they cross the placental barrier.
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My doctor really didn't give me a laundry list of DON'Ts - he basically said women have been having healthy babies for centuries just about everything is OK in moderation. I'm actually surprised your doctor told you about Deli Meat, thats kinda an "old school" one

I personally chose to avoid:

Mass amounts of coffee (I had one cup a day)
Raw Sushi
Alcohol
Raw Cheeses
Fish with high levels of mercury


stay away from larger predatory fish, as they are the ones that bioaccumulate mercury. for example: tuna steaks, shark, swordfish, marlin, etc. fish like salmon, canned tuna, halibut, cod, etc are generally okay. but even still, it's recommended not to exceed two servings a week, or 12 oz a week. methylmercury crosses the placental barrier and is associated with neurological deficits in children.

alcohol can lead to many things including mental retardation, which i am sure you all know.

also, make sure you supplement with folate both in the immediately pre-pregnancy, and during pregnancy. i believe the amount is 400 ug/day, which confers pretection against neural tube defects (spina bifida, anencephaly, etc).
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also, fish consumption during pregnancy is correlated with increased cognitive performance in children, mostly attributed to omega-3 fatty acads EPA and DHA in fish. so cutting out fish completely may not be the best thing, or perhaps supplement with omega-3's from some other source.
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alcohol can lead to many things including mental retardation, which i am sure you all know.
So the daily Grey Goose/Redbull that I drank all through my pregnancy and while I was nursing is the reason my children are like this? Damnit!!!
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So the daily Grey Goose/Redbull that I drank all through my pregnancy and while I was nursing is the reason my children are like this? Damnit!!!
lmao your kids look great to me, but yeah, if you get pregnant again maybe lay off the alchohol. or maybe just stick to a texas mickey/day
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also, fish consumption during pregnancy is correlated with increased cognitive performance in children, mostly attributed to omega-3 fatty acads EPA and DHA in fish. so cutting out fish completely may not be the best thing, or perhaps supplement with omega-3's from some other source.
My hubby actually sent me a link on that, they said definitely continue to eat fish (except for trout and bass I think) on a weekly basis because fish=smart babies.

My Doc said no deli meat because of the recent listeria outbreak, he said 1 year ago he did not tell his patients "no deli meat." I've also seen him dining at subway on more than one occasion so he's a deli meat fan.
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My hubby actually sent me a link on that, they said definitely continue to eat fish (except for trout and bass I think) on a weekly basis because fish=smart babies.

My Doc said no deli meat because of the recent listeria outbreak, he said 1 year ago he did not tell his patients "no deli meat." I've also seen him dining at subway on more than one occasion so he's a deli meat fan.
not trout and bass, refer to a the general rule of large predatory fish = bad. althogh, bass may also be bad since they are generally in freshwater, which is prone to concentration of industrial waste.
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most are also are potent in nitrates, which are carcinogens. lunch meat twice a week increases your colorectal cancer risk by about 30%, if i remember correctly. not sure if they cross the placental barrier.
As I said, it's the main cause when concerned with pregnancy. Nitrates are a preservative so essentially they could be making the meat safer in some ways... Anyway, I haven't heard any concerns that it may increase risk of cancer in infants, but there are much better choices then deli meat regardelss. I do believe they cross the placental barrier though, nitrate-related methoglobinemia (sp?). But I'm pretty sure that's mainly with well water, never heard of a link with deli meat.

anyway, to the OP, I think you're quickly gonna find everyone has their own way of doing it. Moderation is the only way. Of course There are certain obvious food to avoid, like said. Personally, I would recommend to stay away from the deli meats, soft cheeses and anything containing raw meat as well (including cookie dough). and Be picky about your fish.
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a lot of higher end grocery stores are actually selling nitrate free lunch meat now
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I would post this in a pregnancy forum but a lot of those women are crazy pregnancy nuts and I know I would not get "real" answers from them.

The only "do not do" my doctor gave me (aside from smoking/drinking) is to not eat deli meat, but I've had friends docs say don't eat leftovers/sushi/peanut products/soy/cheese/cookie dough/yadda/yadda/yadda. I want to be safe but I also want to EAT. What kind of things did you avoid during your pregnancy and WHY?

My $.02 says that the popularity of these "don't touch anything with bacteria" pregnancy forums form a direct correlation with the rise of peanut allergies, but I have no medical expertise.
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I was told to avoid most everything that was listed above, but here it is again.

Avoid:
Large game fish, limit other fish/shellfish/tuna to two per week
Lunch/deli meat (can eat, if heated until steaming to kill listeria)
Soft cheeses
Hot dogs
sushi
anything with raw eggs
anything unpasteurized
alcohol

MY OB did not limit caffeine. Her opinion on this was that if you want 2 cups of coffee/soda/tea per day that's fine, but don't go overboard. I tried to stick to one a day and sometimes went days with none.

I also craved peanut butter on graham crackers and ate it alot with my first. My first is not allergic, but is not a big fan of it. My second is too young.
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So the daily Grey Goose/Redbull that I drank all through my pregnancy and while I was nursing is the reason my children are like this? Damnit!!!
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lmao your kids look great to me, but yeah, if you get pregnant again maybe lay off the alchohol. or maybe just stick to a texas mickey/day
lol. Ok for anyone who didn't already know that I was joking, I was. There is no way in hell that I would even have a glass of wine while pregnant.

And Vik, I am not getting pregnant again.
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