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Old 11-28-2008, 12:35 AM
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My two youngest kids want lap top computers for Christmas and I'm pretty much over trying to decide what to buy. They are 11 and 12 and will use them for their internet romp's and my son is into playing an online game called Doffus. Right now I'm leaning towards buying them Dell Netbooks which happen to be $300 for Black Friday (with free shipping), but I'm not sure about whether or not to upgrade. I'm thinking maybe I need to for my son since he likes to play games???

Here are my options and the cost of each upgrade.
I can upgrade from 512MB DDR2 at 533MHz to 1GB for an extra $25.

It comes with a 4GB Solid State Drive and I can upgrade to 8GB for an extra $35 or 16GB for an extra $75 (thinking that would be really unnecessary). I'm not really sure how to copare a SSD to a regular hard drive. What is the equilvalent SSD to a 120 GB hard drive?

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Also these come with the Lunix operating system which I've read is better for netbooks then Windows. Agree?

The down point of a netbook is not having the CD/DVD drive. I have found an Acer notebook for $399 that has a 2 GB DDR2 and 120 GB hard drive, so that would be only $39 more if I upgrade. The size and weight of the netbook is appealing to me since we will travel with these and they do have little fingers so the small keyboard will be perfect for them.

I just need to make a decision and get this purchase over with.
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Old 11-28-2008, 12:49 AM
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Best Buy is selling a nice Toshiba for $350 on Black Friday. It has nice specs. Don't buy a Dell.
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Old 11-28-2008, 12:50 AM
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What kind of games are they playing? I would assume non graphics intensive games so a low end laptop would be okay.

There's no comparison between a SSD and a HD. SSD is faster, more reliable, and more energy efficient. However, it's more expensive ($/GB ratio) and has a lower capacity.

Linux is more reliable, I'd say...but not as user friendly.

From what you've given about your kids, I think you'd be fine with that $300 purchase.

Lots more info can be found at the forums over at Notebookreview.
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Old 11-28-2008, 01:03 AM
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Thank you both for your rapid response.

Why not buy a Dell? I'm curious because I think my partner's computer sucks and it is an expensive Dell; however, neither one of us is very computer savvy and I think most of the issues could be fixed if we knew anything at all about computers.

Marka,
I'm guessing you are talking about this one? I guess I could try and get into the store and see if they still have them by the time I can get there. I'm getting ready to leave for Dallas and my kids will be with me, so I'll have to drop them off and a friends and then go look.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1218011772901

I hate that I'm so computer stupid! Guess I'll go do some more research at notebookreview.com.
Thanks!
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Old 11-28-2008, 01:08 AM
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most of these use parts from the same people. intel chips, nvidia graphics, micron ram etc. i wouldn't get too hung up on the brand name. spend your money on features and performance. with the BF deals you speak of it's hard to go wrong
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Old 11-28-2008, 01:14 AM
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My dell is about 5 years old and I've had no trouble with it

I would always upgrade your ram - more is better

My approach to buying computers has always been decide how much you want to spend and then find the best value you can get for your money. Otherwise its so easy to go - oh thats just another $20, another $50... etc before you know it your spending way more than you planned!

Re Linux - We used it at one place I worked - it does take a bit of getting used to (and I have a comp sci degree! ). Mostly its still chosen for a cost effective solution - although having heard horror stories of vista - maybe this is not the only reason anymore! Just make sure your kids games can run on linux before you go that way

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Old 11-28-2008, 01:36 AM
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Dells break after a year. I bought a Dell w/o listening to my bf, and as he predicted, as soon as my warranty expired, the computer went to shit. Same happened with my cousin and many of bf's customers (he's a computer technician).
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Old 11-28-2008, 01:43 AM
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Me, my dad, and both of my sisters have Dells that we've used for years upon years with no problems. They don't break if you don't browse too much porn
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Old 11-28-2008, 02:19 AM
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My partner uses a Dell monitor and it's fine after 2 years.
They have great after sales service too, there was an issue with one of the buttons after 3 months, and we called up Dell, they arranged to come to our house, gave us a brand new monitor and packed the old one up, no questions asked.
I had an old Dell I was using for a few years too, didn't give me any issues, although I eventually upgraded last year so I could have a faster computer for gaming.
And if you do have any issues with the hardware, they'll usually replace it for free (as long as it's under warranty), deliver it to your house, and usually throw in some comps here and there (free wireless keyboards, mouse etc), I think that's great service
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Old 11-28-2008, 07:37 AM
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most of these use parts from the same people. intel chips, nvidia graphics, micron ram etc. i wouldn't get too hung up on the brand name. spend your money on features and performance. with the BF deals you speak of it's hard to go wrong
I agree, especially if it is a PC, just build your own and you can get it for REAL cheap.


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Me, my dad, and both of my sisters have Dells that we've used for years upon years with no problems. They don't break if you don't browse too much porn
Three things every user needs to have/ do:

An external hard drive to back up important documents.
A firm grasp of "system restore".
A re-format of windows once a year.

This will solve 95% of your problems in my opinion.
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Old 11-28-2008, 07:50 AM
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I work for a very large corporation and we have upward of 100,000 or more of Dell laptops/desktops/servers...no computer manufactures are perfect...we do have a lot of Dell computers that broke down after a few months of usage but the percentage is very little compare to other brands we had used before.
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Old 11-28-2008, 07:53 AM
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^ Yeah, I have three dells on my desk right now. Two of which I have been running for 2 and three years now. My office also buys Dells.
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Old 11-28-2008, 11:11 AM
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Me and my husband will only buy Dell's. It helps that where he works we get an employee discount

But regardless, I've had my wireless card go out, and with the warranty, they came to my house next day and fixed it within an hour. We have three, and overall, they're very reliable, and they don't break if you accidentally drop them.
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Old 11-28-2008, 11:25 AM
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Me, my dad, and both of my sisters have Dells that we've used for years upon years with no problems. They don't break if you don't browse too much porn


A friend of mine got a very expensive Dell. It was like a $2000 desktop and her husband looked at so much porn he burned it out in a few months. I am not sure why they burn out looking at porn but it really seems they do.

I have had my Dell for almost 5 years and never any problem.
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I agree, especially if it is a PC, just build your own and you can get it for REAL cheap.
Building a laptop is a completely different thing though...The most you can "build" one (unless you're reallllllllly into computers) is starting from a barebones kit or getting the Asus C90...



I dislike Dell for their quality/price ratio. While price is definitely low, overall, it's still a POS compared to other lesser known, quality brands (cause their stuff often gets rebranded for other companies) e.g. Asus, Compal (not Compaq), Clevo, Quanta...
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Building a laptop is a completely different thing though...The most you can "build" one (unless you're reallllllllly into computers) is starting from a barebones kit or getting the Asus C90...



I dislike Dell for their quality/price ratio. While price is definitely low, overall, it's still a POS compared to other lesser known, quality brands (cause their stuff often gets rebranded for other companies) e.g. Asus, Compal (not Compaq), Clevo, Quanta...
Totally credited, I should have specified desktop.
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Computers don't just "burn out" from looking at porn. The worst thing that can happen is you end up infecting your computer by being an idiot, and thats nothing a fresh installation of windows won't fix. If a computer dies out prematurely either someone did something incredibly stupid or it was a bad product from the start

As for dell, I don't see any reason to buy one. If you're set on paying a premium for a brand name why not buy something with a better track record like a Sony Vaio or a Thinkpad?
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Here are my options and the cost of each upgrade.
I can upgrade from 512MB DDR2 at 533MHz to 1GB for an extra $25.
Buying an extra stick of 512MB will only cost you $10. With $25, you can add on a 1 gb stick instead for a total of 1.512 gb of ram.

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It comes with a 4GB Solid State Drive and I can upgrade to 8GB for an extra $35 or 16GB for an extra $75 (thinking that would be really unnecessary). I'm not really sure how to copare a SSD to a regular hard drive. What is the equilvalent SSD to a 120 GB hard drive?
Solid state is a lot better than normal HD's.
It doesn't spin, so it doesn't require a fan. If it's for your son, you don't need that much space on your HD. But, the more space the better if he plans on keeping it in the future.


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Also these come with the Lunix operating system which I've read is better for netbooks then Windows. Agree?
Linux isn't as user friendly as Windows. Sure it's faster, takes less space etc. but for you son, Windows would be best.

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The down point of a netbook is not having the CD/DVD drive. I have found an Acer notebook for $399 that has a 2 GB DDR2 and 120 GB hard drive, so that would be only $39 more if I upgrade. The size and weight of the netbook is appealing to me since we will travel with these and they do have little fingers so the small keyboard will be perfect for them.
There are many sub-notebooks available in that price range. Like the Acer Aspire one you mentioned, it's reliable and pretty small. Many people like the ASUS eee pc 1000h (10") or the MSI wind U100 (10") as well (both comparable).

There are a lot of great alternatives, so you shouldn't narrow your options down. I think a sub-notebook would be great way to start.

I personally use a Dell laptop and I like it.
I have a Latitude X1 (2.5 lbs, 12.1", 30gb HD, 1.2 Ghz, 1.24 gb ram) which is great for school travelling. It's pretty trusty =)
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Oooo...I just bought the Dell Inspiron Mini 9. I'll let you know how it works out. There's a link to get the Windows XP version for the same price as the Linux if you're interested. I know nothing about Linux, so I opted for Windows.

Let us know which one you end up buying. My current computer is a Toshiba Satellite U205 which has served me really well the last couple of years. I love small laptops and mine is about 12" and weighs 4 lbs. The only reason I bought another one is because I wanted something smaller (8.9" and 2.2 lbs) since I'm doing a lot of traveling lately.
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Old 12-01-2008, 02:30 AM
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^ Yeah, I would agree with you there. I got the Mini 9 as a supplement to my regular computer...not instead of my computer. I didn't get Ubuntu because I have never used it and am not familiar with linux whatsoever, but from what I've read the Windows XP version would make the computer slower. Again, I don't mind because it's the portability I was going for, but as a main computer for your kids...it might seem better to go for something with more substance than a netbook.

I wish I could recommend something more, but I haven't really been in the laptop shopping market in quite sometime. Also, how much are you intending to spend? I know that would also dictate what kind of computer you could get.
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