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Old 05-03-2010, 11:41 AM
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what exactly is the purpose of soaking?

is it just to shrink the denim?

I'm at 3 months now @ roughly 12 hours a day.

I have an office job, so they don't get a whole bunch of hard wear.

and the fit is about the same as in my journal from a month ago.
http://www.authenticforum.com/dry-jo...st-nudies.html

Will soaking mess up any fading I've already progressed on?

I am very tempted to throw them in the wash, as they're quite dirty due to living in a new construction area.
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Sorry to hi-jack your thread but I have a similar question but I didn't want to make another thread about it...

I just bought a pair of new raw denim that are too long for me. What kind of soak (hot or cold) should I do in order to shrink it before taking it to a seamstress for hemming, and for how long? Or can I just put it in the dryer and shrink it that way?

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what exactly is the purpose of soaking?

is it just to shrink the denim?

I'm at 3 months now @ roughly 12 hours a day.

I have an office job, so they don't get a whole bunch of hard wear.

and the fit is about the same as in my journal from a month ago.
http://www.authenticforum.com/dry-jo...st-nudies.html

Will soaking mess up any fading I've already progressed on?

I am very tempted to throw them in the wash, as they're quite dirty due to living in a new construction area.
Yes, primarily to shrink the denim when you first begin wearing them! And, to wash off the starch coating used during manufacturing.

I'm not sure whether they'll alter the pre-existing fade or not - I don't know much about Nudies - but conventionally the denim is pre-soaked before any hard-wearing happens. This depends on whether the denim is sanforised or not, etc, etc...

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I just bought a pair of new raw denim that are too long for me. What kind of soak (hot or cold) should I do in order to shrink it before taking it to a seamstress for hemming, and for how long? Or can I just put it in the dryer and shrink it that way?

Thank you
You can't just put them in the dryer when the denim is dry - even after washing, using the dryer is frowned upon, and the process must be closely monitored.

Read this thread:
http://www.authenticforum.com/dry-de...-tricks-2.html

I've posted my wash methods there.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:07 AM
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Sorry to hi-jack your thread but I have a similar question but I didn't want to make another thread about it...

I just bought a pair of new raw denim that are too long for me. What kind of soak (hot or cold) should I do in order to shrink it before taking it to a seamstress for hemming, and for how long? Or can I just put it in the dryer and shrink it that way?

Thank you
what jeans are they? are they sanforized or not?



Nudies are sanforized so they do not need to be soaked prior to wearing them. Any soaking/washing will cause some indigo loss. I personally think 3 months is a little to soon for a soak but its up to you.
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what jeans are they? are they sanforized or not?



Nudies are sanforized so they do not need to be soaked prior to wearing them. Any soaking/washing will cause some indigo loss. I personally think 3 months is a little to soon for a soak but its up to you.
I bought the Uniqlo MIJ Selvege ones and I believe they are sanforized. Hmm, there's a controversy going on, I'm confused on whether to soak or not now...
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I bought the Uniqlo MIJ Selvege ones and I believe they are sanforized. Hmm, there's a controversy going on, I'm confused on whether to soak or not now...
There's no real controversy bro, just different ways of doing things.

What you'll find is that vintage denim hobbyists tend to do it the old fashioned way: shrink-to-fit (soaking or washing) before wearing them & washing them more regularly. In this way, you will get more authentic vintage ageing, i.e. the creases & ridges will form on the different seams, the twist in the legs will become apparent, the denim will be stronger and therefore allow longer wear, the fading will become less contrasting and more vertical, achieveing more 'hue', etc. This is my preferred method!

I would soak before wearing even for sanforised denim, because they do shrink as well, just not as much as unsanforised denim.

With the modern, dry-denim hobbyist, they tend to prolong the washing as long as possible. It really depends on what level of dirty is acceptable to you I have a friend who hasn't washed his pair after more than 2 yrs...
With this method, you would achieve less indigo loss & more contrasting fade - but indigo loss is not a problem on well-made/well-dyed denim! Hence if you're wearing Samurai's or Sugar Cane's, this method IMO isn't really the way to go.

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I would soak before wearing even for sanforised denim, because they do shrink as well, just not as much as unsanforised denim.
Quoted for truth.

I just soaked my AJDDO's. Either the leg diameter shrunk or my thighs have suddenly grown a half inch.

Really wish I had sized up now. It's deal-able though, only really apparent when I sit down.
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:19 AM
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Nudies are sanforized so they do not need to be soaked prior to wearing them. Any soaking/washing will cause some indigo loss. I personally think 3 months is a little to soon for a soak but its up to you.
are ALL nudies sanforized?

I guess I'll hold off on a soak for another month or 2.
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If they are really dirty, you mentioned living in a new construction area, I'd think about a wash/soak because dirt can really weaken denim-especially in creases, and you'll end up with holes.
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:46 AM
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the dirt is mostly around the cuff.

the thighs are rather dusty, but you can really only tell in bright sunlight.

I've been lint rolling the balls out of these jeans to keep a fresher cleaner look on them which helps a lot.

I'm just worried the whiskering and honeycombing I've made progress on will be gone once I wash them, as well as the slight fade in the thighs, which very well could just be dirt.

Would a warm wash be best to keep as much contrast as possible?
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are ALL nudies sanforized?
Yup!

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Would a warm wash be best to keep as much contrast as possible?
A cold inside-out soak is the gentlest way of washing your jeans, and tends to result in the least amount of indigo working its way loose from the entire pair. The more indigo you lose on the entire pair, the less potential for high-contrast fading there is.

Agitating the water while the jeans are soaking, and using warmer water will result in more indigo loss. If you're concerned about achieving a high-contrast result, then it would be wise to avoid indigo loss from the entire pair as much as possible.

They'll fade either way, though. I'm of the opinion that at least 90% of this "don't wash your jeans" stuff is hype. Too much voodoo, too much bullshit. Soak 'em when you feel like you want to, that's the only thing that matters.
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What about adding white vinegar to cold water when soaking? Will that preserve the indigo? I also heard adding white vinegar will not fade or cause the denim to bleed. I want to preserve the indigo and make the denim shrink.

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What about adding white vinegar to cold water when soaking? Will that preserve the indigo? I also heard adding white vinegar will not fade or cause the denim to bleed. I want to preserve the indigo and make the denim shrink.
Never done it myself, but people say it's like adding salt to water, helps indigo hold fast.

What pair of dry jeans do you have? You might not need to worry about indigo loss... In fact, some brands overdye their jeans massively, and it's probably a good idea to wash off excess indigo, in case furniture may be ruined :P
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Never done it myself, but people say it's like adding salt to water, helps indigo hold fast.

What pair of dry jeans do you have? You might not need to worry about indigo loss... In fact, some brands overdye their jeans massively, and it's probably a good idea to wash off excess indigo, in case furniture may be ruined :P

true, though majority of those brands like to use synthetic based indigo which doesn't wash or rub off as easily in the first place.

When soaking them in water with white vinegar it is called "steeping" and yes it does help the indigo stay attached when in wash. The vinegar also will give the hue a crisper and cleaner looking finish. Like washing without the negatives kinda sorta.
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