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Old 05-30-2006, 12:52 PM
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How to spot fake tr's! (Under rebuild be patient)

THIS GUIDE WILL SHORTLY BE REVAMPED, IT IS NO LONGER ACCURATE OR UP TO DATE. PLEASE REFER TO OUR 3 PART EBAY GUIDE IN THE MEANTIME. THOSE GUIDES WILL SOON BE IMPORTED HERE WITH MORE/LARGER PHOTOS

eBay Guides - Authenticating TRUE RELIGION - A pictorial guide
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eBay Guides - Authenticating TRUE RELIGION -PART 3 More 2007 styles

THE BASICS:
things that should make it easy for you to decide whether or not your jeans are authentic

1. If the price is ridiculously low, usually it's fake unless its a trusted seller for example Daily Denim, VIP Fashions. Fakes do sell for a lot due to uneducated or ignorant ebayers, so don't just buy asumming the jeans are real because the price is high, or climbing.

2. If you're not sure, ask for some better pics and if they are not provided, stay away to be safe.

3. There are many key things to look at, but no ONE SINGLE item, do not just go off the one aspect look at several to ensure they are authentic

Characteristics

1. CONSTRUCTION:
of fakes is generally very poor and its easy to notice things such as the horseshoe shape and placement on the back pockets

2. generally fake tr's show to much distressing and make a complete mockery out of the real thing

3. sometimes the writing and font on the tags or logo on the back of the jeans is different to the proper thing but usually you only have to look at this aspect as a last resort

right, onto the more detailed information (in all images the one on the left is real and any images following it are examples of fakes)

tr back pockets

the horse shoe design on fakes tend to have the wrong shape in many cases they are too wide, some fakes do not even make an attempt to put the horse shoe in the centre of the pocket and instead have it tilted to one side



tr back pocket flaps

fakes curve to a minimal extent or simply don't curve at all,this is one of the easiest factors IMO to finding out if the jeans are real or not



tr coin pockets

when i first got into tr's this was what i counted on to ensure authentic tr's and most of the time it worked but just like the back pocket flaps, fakers have realised that the coin pocket should also be curved but some just don't learn...



tr backtag

there's a few things to look out for here, sometimes fakes have the wrong font and just look cheaply constructed, this is demonstrated on the hand of the buddha, the real one's are made in depth and it is possible to see all the fingers of the buddha, on fakes however the buddha doesn't have this distinct look on the fingers i would just also like to specify that the left picture is of joey mens and the right picture of joey womens, incase you were wondering tr do not have seat numbers or rows for the womens so this is not a way to check for authentication furthermore in regards with the men's jeans only, the seat is always and i repeat always seat 33 so if you see seat 34 or something then it's an automatic giveaway that it is fake! (see third pic) (NOT ANYMORE... TR HAS MADE SEAT 34 FOR SOME TIME NOW)



tr inside tags

recently the newer models, like diesel have microstitching and the fake pairs just have the usual cheap silver thread pretending to be microstitching, i came across a pair with a very strange inside tag which was fake of course but i had never come across it before, it said "made in u.s.a" (see below) this made it obvious they were fake it should say made in usa without the dots between each letter also in the part which says "brand jeans" the j in jeans should dip down slightly however some fakers have caught up with this and have included the dip down on the "j" so do not be fooled into thinking they are real because of this aspect( 1st pic is real, the 2nd shows the "u.s.a" fake and the 3rd a tag without the dip on the "j") also after comparing the three pics myself i also noticed that the real "a" in usa, it is pointed at the top wheras the fakes seem to be curved at the top of the "a"

** Older TR Jeans had a FLAT TOP on the A in USA ** This is not an accurate tell to blindly assume a flat top A is a fake.





This is a REAL Bobby tag from 2004 style.

tr inside stamp (the buddha)

fake inside stamps look more faded than the real thing most of the time it's hard to say whether or not they are authentic looking at this aspect until the jeans have been washed a couple of times, some fake inside stamps may not look faded but are blatant fakes as they look nothing like the actual buddha



tr hangtags

the fake tr hangtag shows no sign of distressing at all but some fakers have caught up and have now created hangtags which resemble the actual thing (notice in the second pic the tag is bent in the top right corner to make it look like the real thing, trying to make it look distressed)

Keep in mind regarding the cardboard hang tag, which IMO is one of the last things to look at, many fakes have attempted distressing by "quartering" them, meaning you will see fold marks as if they had been bent back and forth in halves both ways.



tr hangtags (the newer version)

the newer hangtags are attached to the jeans with denim and have relatively short loops. The back is a very thin peice of cardstock which is treated to resemble leather. although the first pic is indeed of a real tag, fakers are now transferring the real tag onto the fake jeans to try and con the buyer into thinking they were real so be on the look out for this, notice in the fake tag it is attached with string not denim and notice how it says seat 34 instead of 33 (on the backtag of jeans)



that's it for now but myself and keri are working together to compile some extra information and to enhance the guide, we are going to include things such as embroidery i.e. miss groovy, bobby godiva etc and also things such as joey patch. we will have a mini guide on washes and which cuts each wash comes in, we will continue to update on a regular basis so that everyone is aware of new fakes etc

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Old 05-31-2006, 11:33 AM
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i've seen a few of them, maybe i should get a picture of one
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Old 06-01-2006, 08:25 AM
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Old 06-02-2006, 12:46 PM
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i almost forgot... i would like everyone to please give a great big thank-you to keri for helping me make this guide possible
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Old 06-03-2006, 08:23 AM
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hey, I posted some pics of good fake Sammys here: http://honestforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=43511
I can take them down and put them here if you want.
And let me know if you need help, I can find some other pics for you.
Oh, and, IMO, I think you need more pics of good fakes, with the curved pocket and all. And maybe you should label the pics clearly: Fake/Real

Good job, though!

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Old 06-03-2006, 01:45 PM
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ok thanks i'll try and improve it
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Okay, so I tried to PM this to people, but it is too long!!!!! Sorry guys, once we get all this figured out, there will be an amazing guide, and we'll have everything edited to make it easy to read and clear out clutter.

I need feedback & pics.

If you have pics, ask for my email, and name them after the area they would be appropriate for (the little stuff inside the [img]__[/img] bit, if you have more than one, format section# picture letter - # (1a-1,1a-2)

I will be doing all the watermarking and cropping to make sure everything flows nicely.


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Basics for spotting fake True Religion.
1. Hang Tags
2. Inner Tags
3. Pocket Bags
4. Waistband Label
5. Coin Pocket
6. Pocket Flaps
7. Horseshoes
8. Stitching
9. Overall Fabric/ Wash quality



#1. Hangtags.
There are currently two styles of hangtag right now.
Tag #1, Older Tag.
This is a real version of the cardboard tag used by True Religion.
[img]1a[/img]
Notice how the tag is distressed and crumpled. A fake tag will look clean and new, or will be folded almost like in quarters to make it resemble the real one.
These are fake versions of the old hangtag:
[img]1b[/img]

Tag #2, New Tag.
This is how a real one of the new tags should look:
[img]1c[/img]
Notice the Denim used to attach it. Also, look at how the denim used to attach it has a relatively short loop. It should be a little difficult to remove the tag without untying or cutting the denim. Also, The back part is a thin piece of very stiff cardstock, treated to resemble leather.
This is an example of a fake of the newer tags:
[img]1d[/img]


#2. Inner Tags
Will be either two or three layers.
Mens: Real Two Layer Tag:
[img]2a[/img]
{Don’t Own Men’s, Do you know what should go here?}
Mens: Real Three Layer Tag:
{Same as above}
[img]2b[/img]
Fake Men’s Tags:
[img]2c[/img]

Womens: Real Two layer Tag
[img]2d[/img]
Womens: Real Three layer Tag
[img]2e[/img]
  • Pay close attention to fonts, boldness, height, etc. That will be your greatest asset when looking at inner tags.
  • Some newer pairs have micro stitching, just make sure that it is not just a silvery thread running through there.
  • The J in “jeans” should dip down. Fakers have caught on to this, but if you see a pair without the dip, they are definitely fake!
Examples of Fake Women’s Tags:
[img]2f[/img]


3. Pocket Bags.
Pictures of Real Men’s Pocket Bags:
[img]3a[/img]
Pictures of Real Women’s Pocket Bags:
[img]3b[/img]

Pocket bags should have clear, bright Buddha prints. Men’s will have larger Buddhas

Examples of Fake Pocket Bags:
[img]3c[/img]


4. Waistband Labels
  • Look for the correct fonts, Proportions, and Quality of Label
  • Also look at how the label is stitched on the waistband. The stitches should be even and straight, and the label should be aligned, not crooked on the waistband.
  • Different Label Sizes will have different proportions and clarity.
Real Standard Women’s Label:
[img]4a[/img]
Real Big T Women’s Label:
[img]4b[/img]
Real Super T Women’s Label:
[img]4c[/img]
Real Standard Men’s Label:
[img]4d[/img]
Real Big T Men’s Label:
[img]4e[/img]
Real Super T Men's Label:
[img]4f[/img]

Fake Labels tend to be off in color and have the wrong fonts. Not to mention the proportions are very off often.
Examples of fake Labels:[img]4g[/img]


5. Coin Pocket Flaps
Coin Pocket Flaps should have curved edges, and resemble the back pocket curve in general proportion.
Real Coin Pocket Flaps:
[img]5a[/img]

The amount/type of curve varies.The main thing to look for in a fake is a flap that looks like a square almost with bits removed (no slope from the point to the edge).
Example of Fake Coin Pocket Flaps
[img]5b[/img]


6. Back Pocket Flaps
  • The flaps on back pockets should follow the same rules as the coin pocket.
  • There should be a slope from the point to the outer edges.
  • The flap should have curved edges
  • The flap should have points on the corners
Real Pockets With Flaps:
[img]6a[/img]

Common fake mistakes are straight flaps and weird curve at the outer points.
Some fake pockets:
[img]6b[/img]


7. Horseshoes
  • Horseshoes should be of a pleasing proportion and fill out the pocket.
  • They should not touch the edge, but be close.
  • The horseshoes should mirror each other (The right pocket will be a reflection of the left pocket).
Examples of real horseshoes:
[img]7a[/img]

Common fake mistakes are horseshoes that are too small and in the wrong location, along with horseshoes that are not reflected.
Examples of fake pockets:
[img]7b[/img]


8. Stitching
This is one of the most definitive ways to tell fake from real. However, used jeans may not live up to the stitching test, and still be authentic.
Stitching should be even (all stitches the same length, angle, and in a perfect line).
Real TR Stitching:
[img]8a[/img]

Fake TR’s have never been able to get the stitching down perfectly. They are either uneven legnths or crooked.
Here are examples of fake stitching:
[img]8b[/img]


9. Overall Fabric/Wash Quality
TR uses quality fabric and their washes are very nice.
  • The washes should not have knife-slash looking distressing
  • The distressed and holey areas should have nice edges and be even and smooth.
  • The fabric should be nice fabric, it should not look like cheap Wal-Mart fabric, it should be smooth, and not have an oily sheen.


Real TR fabric Quality:
[img]9a[/img]
For info on the individual washes please see the Wash thread.

Examples of poor quality fabric in Fake TR jeans:
[img]9b[/img]
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Starting here: will be compiling more info and more onsise wash & style codes soon!
Starter on style codes which include material:

10503 = 10 (stretch basic) 503 (Joey womens)
11803 = 11 ( Cords) 803 ( Joey Mens)
40500 = 40 (rigid basic) 500 (Bobby)
24529 = 24 (ridig big t) 529 (Sammy)

24571 = 24 rigid big T 571 Jennifer
502 Johnny

10572 = 10 stretch basic 572 (Billy)
04549 = 04 (japanese denim) 549 (Mickey)
58503 = 58 bleached metallic 503 Joey

599 Julie
584 Sammy Crop
596 Jill




SOME Wash Codes...Smiley happy for your help or anyone elses as soon as possible!
01 Raw
02 Rinse(Bleached)
07 Medium Vintage..MV
06 Dark Vintage..DKV
15 Destroyed
24 Old Stone
32 Medium Clearwater
43 Medium Miner..MM(black)
57 Ranchhand
59 Mudwater
61 Super Light Vintage
63 Dark Pony Express DPE
64 Cowgirl Destroyed
72 Easy Rider
77 Urban Cowboy (light/medium)
78 Urban Cowgirl (dark)
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this is such a helpful thread. thanks soo much!
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this is AWESOME. thank you!
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Super helpful! Thanks!
Are there any authentication tricks for kids TR? I bought a pair for my niece and I have my doubts about them.
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FYI TR IS NOW MAKING JEANS WITH SEAT 34

Styles so far include Johnny and Nathan
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Do all men's jeans have the numbers on the waisteband label?
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hi! i´m considering to buy this TR: Kläder | Jeans | waist 28-29 - **ÄKTA** TRUE RELIGION "JULIE" JEANS - i perfekt skick!,xxslutar:xx2007-04-04 16:39
Do you know if they´re fake or real ones?? Please help me out some one!!!/carolinja
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FYI TR IS NOW MAKING JEANS WITH SEAT 34

Styles so far include Johnny and Nathan
Can someone please verify this, Is TR making jeans with "Seat 34" on them?
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^^Yes. Newer Billy also has a Seat 34.
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Can someone please verify this, Is TR making jeans with "Seat 34" on them?
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^^Yes. Newer Billy also has a Seat 34.
YOu got it??
JOHNNY NATHAN AND BILLY MAY have a seat 34. NEW ones only!
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were true religion jeans ever made somewhere besides the usa
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were true religion jeans ever made somewhere besides the usa
i think some girl sizes are made in mexico
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Are these real? I can't tell because they look really good,
but the Seat 34 is kind of throwing me off.. along with the tag.





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my gosh.. learned a lot here

a master guide!
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good job

just out of curiosity... how can you tell if they are fake from the back if the jeans have no flaps ?
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We look at waist band label, the stitching on the pockets, the yoke and the wash. Its not too terrible difficult.
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