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Old 04-24-2013, 01:42 PM
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need authenticity / damage documents for paypal $1,000 Dior jacket

Jacket is fake. Typical b/s story every fake seller says "i know the designer personally, i'd never sell a fake" lol. Rest of seller's feedback is from selling $1.50 fake earring. Like, people who own $1,000 Dior jackets would even bother selling fake earrings for $1.50.


Listing states jacket as "new" and shows pictures of tags. Seller admitted on eBay that "this is a pre-owned jacket and the tags have been removed", so eBay is aware that the seller removed the tags. But, for some reason they still want documents.


Paypal stated they accepted mypoupette.com and a few other websites. However, none of these websites responded to my emails. And searching about these websites, I've found similar people sharing their stories, stating they paid these companies and the company never provided documents or responded to their messages.


I don't need authenticity documents, just need a sentence or two stating something along the lines of "This jacket has been tampered with and the tags were removed. Tags are vital in identifying if an item is authentic or not."

Can anyone here provide this or know where I can get help?
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:47 AM
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have you called ebay? i would just call them and say you want to return it as "item not as described".. skip the fake or authentic angle if it is becoming too difficult .. just return it because it was pictured with the tags and you received it without the tags i wouldn't think you would not have any problem at all, it is clearly not as described and the seller admitted to that in the messages

(and btw, it is not mandatory to have tags in order to authenticate, we do it all the time here )
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Thanks for the reply.

They don't want authenticity documents. They are aware it's not as described, but require documents for high value items. Correct, you don't always need tags for authenticity, but they are probably the best indicator, as fake items have incorrect font size, alignment of text, etc.

They just want to know how the damage affects the product. Looking for something along the lines of tags play a role in authenticating items or even something like "when tags are removed (even if an item is authentic) it is generally worthless than the same item with tags"


picture related, it's the jacket. Arnold Schwinger (in his prime) could of pulled on this tag, and still not remove it. It's impossible to remove. You have to take scissors and cut as the seller did. Not buying her it tore from everyday use when the tag is inside of a pocket. Than again, today she told me "someone else keeps asking me if i still have the jacket and offers $3,000, so you should be happy you got it for $1,000". Well, if that was the case, shouldn't you be begging me to return it?
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:36 PM
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I can authenticate Dior please take photos of the full front/back of the jacket + close up of the DIOR tag, zipper pulls, stitching around the armpits on the inside ....

As far as people selling a mix of cheap and expensive items, it is not an indicator of authenticity. I sell cheap comic books and brands ultra high end clothing (think Comme Des Garcons, Julius, Rick Owens, Raf Simons) as well as everything in between.
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(1) Jacket looks very light and cheap made. Before I even pulled it out of the box, I saw 3 inches of the jacket inside box and thought fake. (fyi coat hanger is mines)


(2) Stitching is very crooked



(3) fake lampo zipper



(4) Paris tag on neck is bit shorter than real tag


(5) Inside pocket is of some very cheap cloth. It's some faded black color, doesn't match jacket.


(6) Dior Homme on zipper should be 2 words, here there is no space. Also, the imprint isn't even clear, you can barely read the letters.


(7) snaps has some writing on it "Original-I". I own 10+ Dior homme jackets, none say that on it.



(8) inside armpit lining


(9) CD button, and the inside lining of pockets, Dior doesn't use that mesh material in inside lining.


(10) Back of CD button is another button... also never saw this before, it's always sewn onto jacket.

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Old 04-25-2013, 05:50 PM
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follow the instructions here to get a letter:

About obtaining 3rd party letters of authenticity from us for Paypal disputes!
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:35 PM
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I thought you said you can authenticate Dior?


And I've emailed her about a week ago.... no response
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Yes I can, and I gave you the information necessary to get a letter from Pam to fight the case. Unfortunately I can not write you a letter. eBay/PayPal used to accept my letters but they no longer do. I believe they do still accept Pam's letters but you will need to contact her about that. It is kind of ridiculous that eBay/PayPal would make you get a letter considering they allow my buyers to force returns all the time on items no matter the cost w/ out any letters.

If Pam has not responded it is entirely possible that you did not provide the correct information that is requested in the thread. She receives tons of messages and if the correct info is not provided in its entirety chances are she will just ignore the e-mail. She doesn't have time to chase every person down who doesn't provide all the info she needs.

Alternatively you can file a credit card charge back and get your money back that way.
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:21 AM
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It is kind of ridiculous that eBay/PayPal would make you get a letter
This.


Does credit card charge back require any letters?
I still have the original package the buyer sent me the jacket in and her return address..... what will CC do if buyer rejects delivery?


Can you just write me a letter?
90% of these companies that authenticate are b/s companies that never respond. other 10% only do bags and even more specific, one or two brand names in bags.

I think a letter of non-authentic is harder to have accepted by paypal, since they ask you to destroy the item. But, in my case they stated they will accept something that states the damages affect the product, so they do a force return.
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:43 AM
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Like I said, they no longer accept my letters for what ever reason. They were accepting Pams letters.

For a CC chargeback if the buyer rejects it then they are out the item and the money. If eBay/PayPal is not working with you then escalating it to your credit card is the best thing to do.
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