| Well, I am sure it would depend on the denim, so if you see a pair you like, post it here or pm Antik or me.
The few pairs I have didn't stretch out that much at all. I don't wear Zathans, so I am not sure about sizing cause I know they run small. But if it helps, I wear a 34 in TR, PDC, Diesel, RnR, as well as Antiks
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