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Old 05-29-2011, 10:43 AM
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Do your kids have a school dress code?

My kids are in a public school. I'm curious as to what your school(s) codes are. Also, do you have concerns about what is in fashion and how influential it is on what your child(ren) wish to wear.

My son isn't really into fashion and like casual comfort so it's not really of concern to me at the moment.

My daughter is in 2nd grade, so she can get away with some shorter shorts and tank tops. But, from her next grade on forward, she will not be able to.

Girls like to follow what are in fashion as they see it on TV, magazines, internet, etc. We have been seeing plenty of shorty shorts, cutoff shorts, halter dresses, etc. So, of course she'd like to wear them but I don't allow that, unless it's Soffe shorts outside of school and in summer camp.

Here is part of their school policy:

Skirts/shorts must not be shorter than finger-tip length (when oneís arms hang freely at the side, shorts must extend below the extended finger tips).
Clothing must not be tight, revealing or suggestive. Midriff, tube tops, strapless dresses, backless sundresses, tank tops, halter tops, off the shoulder blouses/dresses, see-through articles, slashed clothing,
sheer lace, and tight spandex type clothing may not be worn.

Straps on tops should be at least 2 adult finger width.

What are your thoughts? What do you limit aside from school requirements?
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:53 AM
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here's Clovis Unified Dress Code. for grades 12-K
it's funny because i grew up in Long Beach, California..and there was no dress code there. it was quite a shocker when i moved here (during High School)..all of the boys had super short hair .. i lol'd. (it was the late 70's! )


We believe that attention to appearance and a student's attitude toward self and school are related. Good taste, good grooming, and appropriateness of attire are a part of learning for both boys and girls. However, we recognize that students' mode of dress and grooming is a manifestation of their personal style and individual preference. We believe that students and parents can freely choose apparel that demonstrates individuality, as well as maintain the standards of appropriateness.

however......

All clothing shall be neat, clean and acceptable in repair and appearance and shall be worn within the bounds of decency and good taste as appropriate for school. Apparel is defined as clothing or accessories worn on the body, and includes footwear, backpacks, jackets, headgear and jewelry.

∑ Articles of clothing which display gang symbols, profanity or products or slogans promoting tobacco, alcohol, drugs or sex; materially interfere with school work; create disorder or disrupt the educational process are not allowed.

∑ Any clothing or apparel that a student or group of students wear to identify themselves for the purpose of harassing, threatening, or intimidating others will not be allowed. Military, paramilitary, or military-style camouflage attire will not be permitted. Non-military camouflage attire (i.e. pink or blue) is acceptable for elementary students.

∑ Extreme fashion that draws undue attention to the student will not be allowed. This includes exotic clothing, exotic jewelry, exotic make-up, body piercing, etc.

∑ Jackets and other apparel depicting professional sports teams shall not be worn. Jackets or other apparel depicting college or university teams are acceptable unless such team designations are associated with gangs or otherwise conflict with the standards for acceptable apparel.

∑ Tank tops are not appropriate or acceptable. Shoulder straps on tops worn by females must not be less than two inches (2”) in width, and any apparel determined by District personnel to be too revealing is not acceptable.

∑ Beach wear, swim wear, halter tops, tube tops, spaghetti straps, bare midriffs or chests, see-through or fishnet outfits, or off the shoulder and low-cut tops are not appropriate or acceptable.

∑ Mini-skirts and culottes are acceptable for females so long as they extend to a maximum of four inches (4”) above the knee. Dress that exposes baremidriffs or cleavages is prohibited.

∑ Straps must be fastened at all times.

∑ Leggings will be allowed if over garment reaches four inches (4”) above the knee.

∑ Shoes must be worn by all students. No hard-toed or steel-toed shoes/boots will be allowed. No high top, laced up, combat, or military style boots will be allowed. Shoes or sandals without heel straps that do not present a safety concern may be worn by students in grades 7 through 12, except during physical education classes, recess, while participating in school-related athletic competitions, events or activities, or while participating in other activities where safety is a concern. Backless shoes commonly known as "flip-flops," "beach shoes," "soccer sandals," "zories" and/or thongs are inappropriate and will not be allowed. For safety reasons, students in grades pre-school through 6 are not allowed to wear flip-flops, shoes or sandals without a heel strap. See Exhibit No. 2105 (2).

∑ Excessively baggy pants are not allowed. Pants cannot exceed five inches (5”) when measured at the kneecap of the straightened leg. Pants must fit and be worn at the natural waist. The bottom of the pant leg may not be frayed or drag on the ground. Pants must be hemmed and not stapled, pinned, or taped.

∑ Oversized shirts that present a safety concern or reflect gang style are not acceptable.

∑ Hats and/or caps and/or sunglasses must be removed in the classrooms or offices. Specific clothing and hats determined by the school district or school site to be gang-related or inappropriate apparel are not acceptable. Rules relative to college, university, and professional team apparel apply to hats, caps and other types of head coverings. Articles of sun-protective clothing, including, but not limited to, hats and sunglasses, may be used outdoors. Subject to these provisions, sun-protective clothing, headwear, other than caps or hats, will not be allowed at school. School sites may add other restrictions on the type of hats to be worn.

∑ No frayed clothing is acceptable (manufactured or otherwise).

∑ Clothing, jewelry and personal items shall be free of writing, pictures, or any other insignia which are crude, vulgar, profane, or sexually suggestive; shall not bear drug, alcohol or tobacco company advertising, promotions or likenesses; shall not promote violence, illegal activity, or relate to gang affiliation or activity; and shall not advocate racial, religious, or sexual orientation prejudice.

∑ Clothes shall be worn as intended and be sufficient to conceal undergarments, which shall be worn and covered at all times.

∑ Athletic wear as well as fleece sweatpants are not acceptable, with or without a team/designer logo.

∑ Pro logos on school materials of any kind are not acceptable (binders, folders, backpacks, pens, pencils, etc.)


B. Grooming


∑ Male haircuts may not fall below the mid-point of a standard stand up shirt collar and earlobes must be visible. All aspects of the grooming standards for hair length must be met without artificial means. This includes placing or tucking hair behind the ears.

∑ Hair which causes undue attention is not acceptable; i.e., unusual designs, colors, symbols, messages, mohawks, or “tails,” or unusual razor cuts. Complete razor shaving of the head is allowed. Partial razor shaving of the head may be only one inch (1”) above the top of the ear.

∑ Beards are not allowed.

∑ Bangs or other hairstyles must not obstruct nor interfere with vision.


C. Jewelry


∑ Earrings are not appropriate or acceptable for males as school attire.

∑ Body piercing (eyebrows, nose, lips, tongue) is not acceptable.


D. Exemption to Policy


∑ Religious beliefs, when verified, may be grounds for an exemption to a specific portion of the Dress and Grooming Policy. A petition for an exemption from enforcement of a specified portion of Dress Code Policy may be submitted to the Office of Student Services and School Attendance.

* also, there's certain times of the year that you're not allowed to wear shorts.
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oh, i forgot to mention that i think it's too strict.
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^

Okay, here is the school policy for elementary school, not excerpted as my initial post.

DRESS CODE

Children must wear clothing that is appropriate for school and which allows for freedom of movement and
safety.

The XXXXXX Board of Education recognizes that each pupil’s mode of dress is the result of personal style and individual preferences. The Board will therefore not generally interfere with the rights of pupils and their parents/guardians to make decisions regarding their appearance, except when that choice negatively affects the educational programs, decorum or goals of the district.

To this end, the following guidelines have been established:

Footwear must be worn at all times. Footwear that is considered unsafe (included but not limited to loose sandals, beach or shower type footwear, thin heeled clogs, or roller shoes) are not permitted. Hats or other head coverings, except in the case of religious observance, may not be worn in the building. Exceptions can occur on specific school spirit days.

Each student must dress in a manner that does not attract undue attention. Shorts and skirts should not be a distraction. Skirts/shorts must not be shorter than finger-tip length (when one’s arms hang freely at the side, shorts must extend below the extended finger tips).
Clothing must not be tight, revealing or suggestive. Midriff, tube tops, strapless dresses, backless sundresses, tank tops, halter tops, off the shoulder blouses/dresses, see-through articles, slashed clothing, sheer lace, and tight spandex type clothing may not be worn.

No chains of any type are allowed.

If necessary, school personnel will contact the parents of any pupil who is in violation of the dress and grooming policy and discuss appropriate steps. This may require bringing appropriate clothing to school. Parents/guardians are asked to cooperate in helping the school district attain its objectives and foster pride and good taste in appearance by exercising positive guidance and authority. Please see Board Policy #5132 for additional information related to dress code.

My son will be attending Middle School in the fall and essentially, the expanded dress code policy includes the above and this:

E. No apparel may be worn that promotes or endorses illegal substances, i.e., alcohol or tobacco products. In addition, clothing with messages or graphics deemed offensive, profane, inappropriate, violent or derogatory, is not permitted. No undergarments may be showing.

F. No sunglasses may be worn during the school day unless medically prescribed.
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oh, i forgot to mention that i think it's too strict.
I think it is too.

Now, I don't think ours is that strict. I guess I really didn't think of it that much with my son but now with my daughter, I'm more aware of it. Especially with the influence of pop stars, etc.
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My kids go to public school as well and their dress code is pretty much the same as yours Linda. They are not allowed to wear tank tops at all and if they wear sleeveless shirts, it must have a collar. I like not having uniforms because they can just wear what I normally buy them year round. A couple months ago they took a survey on whether to start having a uniform dress code starting next year at their school. I said no because then we would have to go buy uniform shorts/skirts, pants, specific shirts. No thank you. My kids are 9 and 6 and don't care too much about what they wear. My daughter, the 9 year old, likes to pick out her own shirts but will wear any bottems I pick out. I try to buy shorts for her that she can wear to school as well, but will buy a few shorty shorts just because they are so darn cute!
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Neither of my kids are in school yet, but I am NOT looking forward to dress codes or even perhaps uniforms if that is the case with the school. My children will be well dressed so I am not worried about them breaking the 'dress code' but some schools can get pretty ridiculous, such as 'no flip flops' I LIVE in flip flops (unless dressing up it's heels) because other shoes make my back hurt.
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They let the principle set it. Bascially, once you have boobies, then no tank tops. No short shorts, running shoes on gym days.


6410

INAPPROPRIATE STUDENT BEHAVIOR

6410

Since an educated citizenry is essential to good government and can be attained only in an atmosphere conducive to teaching and learning, the board requires the maintenance of good order in the schools. Reference policy 6400 for disciplinary action.

A.

Inappropriate Dress
Principals shall exercise appropriate discretion in implementing this policy, including making reasonable accommodations on the basis of studentsí religious beliefs or medical conditions. Students are expected to adhere to standards of dress and appearance that are compatible with an effective learning environment. Presenting a bodily appearance or wearing clothing which is disruptive, provocative, revealing, profane, vulgar, or obscene, or which endangers the health or safety of the student or others is prohibited. Examples of prohibited dress or appearance include, but are not limited to exposed undergarments; sagging pants; excessively short or tight garments; bare midriff shirts; strapless shirts; attire with messages or illustrations that are lewd, indecent or vulgar or that advertise any product or service not permitted by law to minors; head covering of any kind; see-through clothing; attire that exposes cleavage; any adornment such as chains or spikes that reasonably could be perceived as or used as a weapon; and any attire that is prohibited by Policy 6424, Gang and Gang-Related Activities. Individual schools are free to specify additional examples of dress or appearance that are prohibited at that school under the terms of this policy.

If a studentís dress or appearance is such that it constitutes a threat to the health or safety of others, distracts the attention of other students or staff from their work, or otherwise violates this dress code, the principal or principalís designee may require the student to change his or her dress or appearance. A second or repeated violation of this policy may result in disciplinary action.
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my son attends public school as well. i think the dress code is too strict. i've no idea how i'm going to get him to wear a belt next school year. maybe i'll look for pants without belt loops or cut them off.

SHIRTS
-Any solid color shirt with a collar such as a polo shirt, oxford shirt or dress shirt.
-T-shirts and shirts with no collar are not permissible.
-Logos are allowed on shirts just as long as they are no larger than a fist.
-School spirit shirts and school club shirts will be allowed to be worn on Fridays.
-The size of the shirt must be appropriate to the student’s body size and not
oversized or undersized.
-Shirts must be tucked into the waistband of a student’s pants or skirt.
-All shirts must have sleeves which forbid tank tops.

PANTS/SHORTS- SOLID BLUE, BLACK, KHAKI
-Pants, slacks, walking shorts, skirts, skorts and jumpers are permissible.
-Athletic shorts including spandex-style bicycle shorts, basketball-style shorts,
cut-off jeans, frayed jeans, cut-off sweat pants short-shorts and running shorts
are not permitted.
-Pants or shorts with belt loops shall be worn with a belt that is properly fastened.
-Pants and shorts shall be worn so that the waistband is not below the waist.
-Shorts can be no shorter than mid-thigh.
-The hem of a girl’s skirt or dress must also be no shorter than mid-thigh.

SHOES
-All students shall wear shoes and athletic shoes/tennis shoes are encouraged to
be worn.
-Platform shoes and shoes with wheels are not permissible.
-Sandals and flip-flops are not allowed.

KINDERGARTEN EXEMPTIONS
Kindergarten students are expected to follow all of the rules and policies of the
school dress code except for the following:
-T-shirts are also acceptable to wear.
-Shirts may or may not be tucked in.
-Belts may or may not be required to be worn.

UNACCEPTABLE ATTIRE
The following items are prohibited from being worn on campus:
-Clothing associated with gangs.
-Clothing encouraging the use of tobacco, drugs alcohol or violence.
-Clothing associated with discrimination on the basis of age, color, handicap,
national origin, sexual orientation, marital status, race, religion or sex.
-Clothing exposing the torso or upper thighs such as see-through garments,
mini-skirts or mini-dresses, halters, backless dresses, tube tops, tank tops,
spaghetti straps, bare midriff outfits or shirts tied at the midriff.
-Clothing not properly fastened or with tears or holes.
-Clothing traditionally designed as undergarments such as boxer shorts, bloomers,
tights, hosiery and sleepwear should not be worn as an outer garment.
-Hats, caps, headgear or any head covering.
-Sunglasses.
-Armbands, wristbands, gloves, wallet chains or any other item with heavy metal
projections.
-Students may not display inappropriate markings such as signs, graffiti, symbols
or writings on themselves or any items they have at school.
-Gang paraphernalia, jewelry, tattoos or insignias which provoke and/or promote
violence or disruptions.

OTHER UNACCEPTABLE DRESS CODE POLICIES
-Visible body piercing other than earrings.
-Extremely garish hair colors such as neon green, orange or other unnatural colors.
-Mohawk-style, extremely spiked or other hairstyles which would be distracting.
-Excessive make-up which exceeds the acceptable standards of the school and community.
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^ no T-Shirts? all shirts MUST have a collar? AND be tucked in to pants?
that's C.R.A.Z.Y. !!
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^yes!... and if the pants have belt loops, one must wear a belt! thank goodness d is exempt from the belt rule since he's in kindergarten. sometimes he has a hard time fastening his pants. a belt? no way.
it's ridiculous.
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that's nuts.
with rules like that, i'm surprised they don't just do school uniforms.
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that's nuts.
with rules like that, i'm surprised they don't just do school uniforms.
totally!

My kid is in a private preschool.. the only requirements are no open toed sandals and no crocs. They can wear anything they want.. but really, how many 4-5 year olds are gonna be wearing anything that promotes illegal activities?
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^ You would be suprised at how many parents think it's 'cute' to do such a thing. I think it's really sad at how many kids are dressed so poorly because their parents do not care.

I have a friend whose sister dresses her kid in mismatched mens (like 5 sizes too big) socks, gross smelly dirty sweatshirts, and jeans that are so short she uses the socks to make up the difference. It's just horrible, and disgusting that the poor child has to go through that. She even had the school comment on it at parent conference.
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^yes!... and if the pants have belt loops, one must wear a belt! thank goodness d is exempt from the belt rule since he's in kindergarten. sometimes he has a hard time fastening his pants. a belt? no way.
it's ridiculous.
^ WOW! That's crazy. Wearing a belt at that age sometimes causes pee accidents as the kids can't unfasten them quickly enough and when ya gotta go, ya gotta go!

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^ You would be suprised at how many parents think it's 'cute' to do such a thing. I think it's really sad at how many kids are dressed so poorly because their parents do not care.

I have a friend whose sister dresses her kid in mismatched mens (like 5 sizes too big) socks, gross smelly dirty sweatshirts, and jeans that are so short she uses the socks to make up the difference. It's just horrible, and disgusting that the poor child has to go through that. She even had the school comment on it at parent conference.
^ Is it because the parents don't care or perhaps they are unable to afford better clothing?

I get it either way though. There is a family whose kids go to the same school as mine. I think they can afford to maintain their house, but it looks like crap. There is junk all over the yard, the house is cosmetically broken, etc. But, I think they chose to put money towards other things like better cars. It really does make their neighborhood look not as attractive as it could be.
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She can afford PD, trips all over, expensive makeup, etc so it's because she's lazy, and doesn't care.

I do know that some kids wear only what their kids can afford, which is sad because they do the best they can and it's not like the goodwill is cheap anymore I just went there to look for an old stereo and started through the kids clothes...prices ranged from 4-16 on shirts, IMO that's outrageous pricing.

ETA: Most schools where I live have a donation program where you can donate clothes to the school and they give them to the kids that are in need, it really helps people out.
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