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Old 04-07-2008, 11:34 AM
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HFCS and the FDA

As you might've (probably not? lol) heard, the FDA ruled last week that products with High Fructose Corn Syrup (BAD) could no longer be labeled "natural". Which is great. It just goes to show that even though something's labeled "natural" or "whole wheat" (you want whole grain) or whatever is not a premise for it being healthy.

I love the "fat-free" one. I think gummy bears have "fat free" labels on their packaging. What, so are you trying to tell me that's healthy? lol. They just replace it with sugar. lot's of it.

HFCS is not 'natural', says FDA

By the way, I am fully behind Men's Health (I would say Women's Health but I've never read it) and a lot of my knowledge comes from it. Their website online is a great resource, as well. Some of their editors have blogs on the site, linking to new research and interesting news.

Here's an article I highly recommend, about "health foods".

You Call That Health Food? - Men's Health

Anyways, the moral of my story for this thread is not to buy something because it says "natural" or "healthy" or something, but actually read the label and some of the ingredients.

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Old 04-07-2008, 03:43 PM
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Wow, I'm suprised the FDA did this. It's a very small step, but a step indeed towards informing the general public about the true dangers of HFCS.

Try reading "Death by Supermarket" by Nancy Deville:

Amazon.com: Death by Supermarket: The Fattening, Dumbing Down, and Poisoning of America: Nancy Deville: Books

I am almost done with the book. And while I THOUGHT I knew about the dangers of HFCS, aspartame, MSG, rBGH & antibiotics fed to dairy cows, processed soy, etc., this book has really opened my eyes. Its incredibly scary how often the FDA fails to protect us from this kind of stuff, all in the name of money & greed
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I've heard of the book, haven't read it though. I'll look into it.

But yes, I totally agree, this is a very small step, but a step in the correct direction nonetheless.
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Wow, I'm suprised the FDA did this. It's a very small step, but a step indeed towards informing the general public about the true dangers of HFCS.

Try reading "Death by Supermarket" by Nancy Deville:

Amazon.com: Death by Supermarket: The Fattening, Dumbing Down, and Poisoning of America: Nancy Deville: Books

I am almost done with the book. And while I THOUGHT I knew about the dangers of HFCS, aspartame, MSG, rBGH & antibiotics fed to dairy cows, processed soy, etc., this book has really opened my eyes. Its incredibly scary how often the FDA fails to protect us from this kind of stuff, all in the name of money & greed
Its not the FDA's job to teach people common sense. There is bad stuff out there, but you don't have to eat it. No one is forcing people to eat at McDonald's, gorge on chocolate and candy, over-consume alcohol, etc.

People need to take responsibility for their own health issues and quit blaming the government.
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:20 PM
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It's sugar. I don't think they should be labeling stuff natural per se. Tobacco, Arsenic, Hemlock, death caps, etc...are all natural. I look at labels with natural on the packagings with a grain of salt (which is natural).
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:25 PM
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Its not the FDA's job to teach people common sense. There is bad stuff out there, but you don't have to eat it. No one is forcing people to eat at McDonald's, gorge on chocolate and candy, over-consume alcohol, etc.

People need to take responsibility for their own health issues and quit blaming the government.
Lawgal I agree with you (about the fast food, candy, unhealthy food, etc) but there's a fine line between letting people (as a whole are idiots) be allowed to hurt themselves (if they want to eat fast food all day and get fat, their choice) and letting misleading things happen which will hurt them (see example).

This is kind of an extreme case but for awhile, it wasn't required to put "may contain trace amounts of peanuts". But someone who was deathly allergic to peanuts (apparently more common than I thought) should be warned by this. The FDA required it. IMO that person, even educated and wanting to take care of themselves, wouldn't have known that unless it was required to be shown. If they die it wasn't by their choice but by the gov not requiring a certain, basic "standard of care".
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It's sugar. I don't think they should be labeling stuff natural per se. Tobacco, Arsenic, Hemlock, death caps, etc...are all natural. I look at labels with natural on the packagings with a grain of salt (which is natural).
exactly. I take a "natural" or "whole wheat" label worth a grain of salt, but i have a feeling the average person does not.
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Its not the FDA's job to teach people common sense.
The FDA's mission statement, from their website:

"The FDA is responsible for protecting the public health by assuring the safety, efficacy, and security of our nationís food supply."

While it is NOT their job to tell us WHAT to eat, it IS their job to protect our food supply from harmful & potentially toxic man-made food additives.
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:33 PM
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^agreed. Especially one's most people don't know about (hell, MSG's been used in asian food forever).

Even those stupid basil and herb triscuit crackers have MSG in them (i kid you not, read the ingredients label next time you're at the grocery store!)

Not everyone has time to research every single ingredient in every food they buy. That's where the FDA should be trying to protect the masses [the ignorant (in a polite way) ones]
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People should MAKE the time to educate themselves about what they put in there bodies! That is a ridiculous excuse that people don't have time. BULLSHIT!
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Don't get me wrong, I agree with that. But the people are the idiots, and i think that the FDA should attempt to protect the idiots (it is there job), however much this does affect our overall gene pool.

But the FDA does studies on things, like MSG, for instance, and realizes it's bad. Therefore, nobody uses it anymore. And they say it's bad. However if it weren't for that I know I would still be eating it, and I would have no way of researching it to find out if it was bad. I don't have access to a lab, or the intelligence/know how to even begin to study it.
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Yeah stick to healthy snacks...all natural.

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Don't get me wrong, I agree with that. But the people are the idiots, and i think that the FDA should attempt to protect the idiots (it is there job), however much this does affect our overall gene pool.

But the FDA does studies on things, like MSG, for instance, and realizes it's bad. Therefore, nobody uses it anymore. And they say it's bad. However if it weren't for that I know I would still be eating it, and I would have no way of researching it to find out if it was bad. I don't have access to a lab, or the intelligence/know how to even begin to study it.
There are numerous articles about what is healthy. I used to think that "white wheat" bread was healthy until I read about it. I would have never known that unless I researched it! It says "wheat" so it much be healthy, right?

I agree that the FDA should do its job of protecting the public from bad things--things that aren't obvious, etc. High Fructose Corn Syrup and all the media surrounding it--well, it shouldn't be a secret anymore that its not natural or healthy.
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^yes that's true. I'm just glad a company can't label something with 'all natural' when it has obviously not natural HFCS in it. like that "all natural" 7up! hahaha they're screwed.
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Maybe 7UP will change it to au naturale. It sounds sexier too.
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I was suprised to learn that some Newman's Own products contain HFCS. For a company that markets so-called "natural" and "organic" products, and donates all of their profits after taxes to charities, it doesn't make sense
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ITA Clark. Its annoying that so many products are labeled "all natural" and are promoted as being healthy, but are filled with HFCS and other crap. People need to take personal responsibility, but I have a feeling that many people think they are eating healthy but really aren't.
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