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Old 01-08-2008, 10:37 PM
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I am so not waisted

Ok, this is in no way meant to incite any sort of negative self-talk. But I'm just making an observation about myself here which has left me sort of curious/perplexed/wondering what I could do about it, if anything. I guess I'm wondering if anyone else has a similar build. I'm really skinny but I'm only 5'5"...and I'm kinda built like a boy...I have relatively broad shoulders, narrow hips, and my waist is not very defined, although I do have a six-pack and toned obliques. (note: how would one reduce the size of their obliques but still have them be toned? Perhaps this is part of my dilemma?) It's one of those things where if I were 20 lbs heavier I'd probably be considered to have an "athletic build", though more like a runner, swimmer, or gymnast than a rugby player or something.

But anyway. My waist is 24" which is plenty small, but I guess what I'm saying is, considering the size of the rest of me, I'm honestly a little surprised that my waist isn't smaller...and I've been wondering, why is that? I have very little body fat so it's like, there wouldn't necessarily be anything to REDUCE, but then I'm curious as to what my waist is actually comprised of then? Is it mostly muscle? It kinda seems like it because the only time my waist got a little bigger, was when I was doing tons and tons of ab work at the gym.

I'm not trying to sound critical of myself but I guess I don't really have a concept of these things and I'm just being nitpicky. Honestly, it is sort of frustrating...I sometimes wish my torso weren't so...straight... but on the other hand, I suppose I should be grateful that I have abs most people would die for. What's also strange, is that my waist is narrow when I turn sideways...but then facing forward, it doesn't seem much narrower than my hips.

Um, so yeah. I'm not unhappy, per se, I'm just kinda confused because I seem to be built like a two-dimensional cardboard person or something.

Proportions sure are weird. I saw this woman at the pharmacy today with a HUGE stomach (not pregnant, just Santa Claus-esque) and then her legs looked like she had borrowed them from her skinny friend. My mom's friend is a size 2 but almost looks pregnant. I don't get it!!!

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Old 01-09-2008, 01:05 AM
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well, i've heard that people can come in two shapes, pear and apple. the woman you described clearly sounds like an apple to me. apple shapes are often associated with medical problems like heart disease.

from what you describe of yourself, it doesn't sound like your waist is an issue. it just sounds like you have really narrow hips.

i just think everyone has different shapes and proportions. for example, my sister is a 30C on top (teeny tiny rib cage) and is a size 27 on the bottom and then has super long thin legs - she is all bony hips.

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well, i've heard that people can come in two shapes, pear and apple. the woman you described clearly sounds like an apple to me. apple shapes are often associated with medical problems like heart disease.
It's the total amount of abdominal fat that is associated with heart disease I believe. No one with abs is at a high risk!

24" is a teeny tiny waist, so I would say it is less of a question of why you have a waist that "big" and more of why are your hips too small. And it sounds like you are healthy and have a very small, narrow frame, so that will keep things on the "boyish" side if your hipbones are narrow.
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:55 AM
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Yeah...I guess that's a good point. It's just kinda annoying sometimes because when I wear empire waist shirts, for example, I look like I'm wearing a tablecloth or something because I have no boobs, and no waist, so all the fabric that is supposed to accentuate that stuff, ends up hiding it.

But, you are right...I really have no right to complain at all!
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:10 AM
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LOL I know what you are talking about! One boyish girl to another lol. I also have really small boobs.

I think it is actually because most "hourglass" shaped women have fat on their hips to give it curvature, and you don't. So if you gained like 5lb most of it would happen in your hips. If you look at models a lot of them really are straight up and down.
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:18 AM
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it's because you have no hips (or very, very small hips)!

and be thankful...the only thing I have is hips, and they make finding clothes (especially jeans and like formal dresses) a huge PITA because they are so out of proportion with the rest of my otherwise small and lanky body. They piss me off, so be glad you are built straight! And you have beautiful abs! I am very jealous.
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:52 AM
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Actually the only time I got truly exasperated at my physique was this summer when I was training for the Philly marathon and all the butts of my jeans got looser, but the legs got tighter. Then when I was working at a camera rental house, my shoulders bulked up enough that suddenly some of my shirts were a little shorter. I was like huh?? It was kinda funny. Sometimes I see people in ill-fitting clothes and I wonder if they know and are just in denial, or if they truly have no idea. We really should all just have interchangeable parts like Mr. Potato Head. And that would solve everyone's problems.
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:57 AM
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or magic jeans? they fit no matter what you body shape-like the sisterhood of the traveling pants lol.
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We really should all just have interchangeable parts like Mr. Potato Head. And that would solve everyone's problems

I that idea
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:29 AM
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It would be hilarious if everyone in the fashion industry finally threw up their hands and just started making One Size Fits All drawstring polyester sweatpants in a variety of colors. I think the average woman's self-image would actually improve. When I used to wear baggy clothes all the time, I didn't think so much about what size I was, because I didn't KNOW what size I was. There was this weird sort of freedom in that. If I saw pants I liked, I'd buy them, even if they were big...ESPECIALLY if they were big. I have to admit, the first time I wore fitted pants again, I felt sort of self-conscious because I suddenly realized I had no idea what my legs looked like and that weirded me out.
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:33 AM
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Proportions sure are weird. I saw this woman at the pharmacy today with a HUGE stomach (not pregnant, just Santa Claus-esque) and then her legs looked like she had borrowed them from her skinny friend. My mom's friend is a size 2 but almost looks pregnant. I don't get it!!!
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It's the total amount of abdominal fat that is associated with heart disease I believe. No one with abs is at a high risk!
i should have quoted annie's post...i meant that lady she was describing - not to infer that annie's rock hard abs were a sign of potential heart disease - because rivkah is correct!


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I that idea
this is a super idea!
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I also have really narrow hips and have the same complaints as you about it! Often the hips/waist of my jeans are loose but the legs are tight and it's really annoying, because it makes me feel disproportionate and like my thighs are huge even though it's mostly cause my hips are so narrow yet I have athletic legs. I was actually excited to hear that when you have a baby your hips spread out! It's weird because from the back I look like I have a waist, but from the front I am straight along the sides, and I always feel like I have a funny shape because my hip bones are higher up instead of spread out, if that makes sense. Ack this can get obsessive
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Everyone is different. It sounds like you are obsessing a little bit. Your body is just a vehicle, the soul is what drives it. I would pay more attention to the driver than the vehicle if I were you...
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well, i've heard that people can come in two shapes, pear and apple. the woman you described clearly sounds like an apple to me. apple shapes are often associated with medical problems like heart disease.

from what you describe of yourself, it doesn't sound like your waist is an issue. it just sounds like you have really narrow hips.
yup...let me add a 3rd shape to that, the heart. Basically built like a really buff boy, as you said...big shoulders, and your bra's band size is probably as big or bigger than your hips. My friend who's a 36DD and a 26-27 in pants is built like this. Basically, the envy of pear-shaped women everywhere!

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i just think everyone has different shapes and proportions. for example, my sister is a 30C on top (teeny tiny rib cage) and is a size 27 on the bottom and then has super long thin legs - she is all bony hips.
I think that's just called being serbian My friend's about a 32A/25/39 and is 5'10...my mom used to be a 34A/25/38 and is 5'10...I didn't get the tall genes but I'm about a 34A-32B/25/38!
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i have a friend who is built the same way, she calls her body shape "2x4" lol.

i'm small, but my measurements are funny- 30b/c on top, 24-25" natural waist and 34" hips! it's just as frustrating when you have larger hips and a smaller waist/top half, trust me.

nobody is perfect, you just have to find what works for your body and go with it!
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:47 PM
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everyone has something they want different about their bodies. The reality is we have to accept what we can change, and accept what we can't. If you want bigger boobs buy a stuffed bra, or get a doc to stuff your chest, ( not stuff, but place tastefully selected implants there)

otherwise, if you look through the fashion mags, everyone looks fabulous and they are all different. Halle Berry seems perfect with her curves and all, but then look at Selma Blair or Gwyneth Paltrow and they rock whatever outfit they wear as well.

It is the attitude not the shape!
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I saw this article once where they compared body shapes to cartoon characters...it was amazing...it was like Spongebob, Patrick, Mickey Mouse...I forget the rest, but it totally cracked me up. I guess it is really easy to lose perspective. I remember working on a sketch in Life Drawing and losing my f**king mind because the minute I made the breasts smaller, the torso looked too thick...so then I made that narrower but the legs looked off...I ended up starting over and was really struck by how hard it suddenly was to see the model in front of me as a single, solid object and not a series of proportions.

I used to think I had these really big arms until I realized that how big could they possibly be if I still wear a size xs shirt? And when I was running a lot in the summer, I ran into the same thing with a lot of my pants, which confused the hell out of me at first. I don't have major issues with my body by any means...I guess I'm just observant, curious, and tuned in to my health. Maybe part of me feels sort of left out that I really don't have much to harp on, obsess over, or complain about compared to some women, so I end up grasping at straws. I kinda think it's in our nature to want to change things about ourselves, especially the things we can't change.

When I was in my tomboy phase, people would often mistake me for a boy and it kinda made me insecure, which I guess still lingers in a way. It is really sad. I have longer hair now and dress in more traditionally feminine clothes, and I still find myself whipping around defensively when someone says "Excuse me sir" and they're talking to the guy next to me. I hated my "boy build" for a long time and felt really weird that despite my size, I would get called "sir" and "young man". But then when I realized some of the models are built the same way, it kinda made me feel better somehow.

I vaguely looked into implants at one point but decided that I just couldn't picture it after all, so now I rock the bra-less thing or wear a camisole and I feel okay with them (er, lack of them? haha). I still think they should add a new body shape: "The Zucchini." Or you could be a banana and have a tiny head and tiny feet with calves and a neck that taper down. The possibilities are endless, just go to your local produce market! I'm starting to feel like if we can't solve womans' body issues, we can at least learn to stop taking them so seriously, right?
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Yeah grass is always greener. We are never really quite happy with what we have I'll trade my body for a boy shape with a 24" waist anyday.
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^ that's true about the grass always seeming greener on the other side.
I'm built similar to kate425 with a 30E/24/34 and I always feel like my thighs are huge compared to my ribcage area. I always put on weight first in my upper thigh area and I buy my jeans mostly to accommodate my thighs. Then I see photos of the lovely ladies modeling jeans here with skinny thighs and think mannn if I could just have skinnier thighs! but everybody has something they want to fix...
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^WORD!^

I think the thing you are concerned with is something that can not really be changed.

I am 5'3" and no matter what I do or not, I will not be any taller.
I can wear heels, I can dress a certain way to appear to my best, to lengthen my look etc, but I will never be taller ever.

You have a boy cut athletic frame, and your body will never be different.
You can not make yourself a curvy pear shape, any more than a person with curves can make themselves into an athletic boy frame.

You can only alter the appearance to a degree, and dress to maximize your assets and minimize your undesired characteristics. Thats the best we ALL can do.
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I'm starting to feel like if we can't solve womans' body issues, we can at least learn to stop taking them so seriously, right?
I agree. If you adhere to this idea the previous novel of your post is irrelevent.
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i just think everyone has different shapes and proportions. for example, my sister is a 30C on top (teeny tiny rib cage) and is a size 27 on the bottom and then has super long thin legs - she is all bony hips.

just work what you got!!
I often get depressed at the shape of my body, as I feel I have very large hips, but my mum always says its only in comparison to my waist, I have a similar size to your sister, I am a 30D and a 26/27 on the bottom, I have long thin legs, and this hip bones that like jut out, and the drive me insane! I wish I could cut them! But I guess I gotta embrace the fact that everyone is different, I am a woman and the hips are meant to be there! Women are so judgemental on themselves, and we really should try not to be!
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well, i've heard that people can come in two shapes, pear and apple. the woman you described clearly sounds like an apple to me. apple shapes are often associated with medical problems like heart disease.

from what you describe of yourself, it doesn't sound like your waist is an issue. it just sounds like you have really narrow hips.

i just think everyone has different shapes and proportions. for example, my sister is a 30C on top (teeny tiny rib cage) and is a size 27 on the bottom and then has super long thin legs - she is all bony hips.

just work what you got!!
Make that 6 shapes: Apple, Pear, Spoon, Ruler, Cone, and the H shape.
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Make that 6 shapes: Apple, Pear, Spoon, Ruler, Cone, and the H shape.
Bodybuilding.com - Karen Sessions - Female Body Shapes: Which Are You?
Yeah, there has to be more than two body shapes because most of the people I know are neither pear nor apple, including myself... Ugh, why do I keep coming back to this thread? Seriously...
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^^very true!

Apparently back in our grandparents' days, the hourglass was the most common shape--now it's the pear. And I see a ton of girls around my age and younger that are apple-shaped (which was part of why I felt kind of awkward as an early-blooming pear)...maybe hormones are changing in subsequent generations and it has something to do with the environment or food
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