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Old 11-05-2010, 06:12 PM
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OTC sleep aids?

Does anyone use any type of sleep aid, that's not prescription? I've been having a hard time falling asleep for a couple of months now , and the 5-6 hours of sleep a day are really starting to get to me.

Warm milk, tastes really weird, and doesn't help. And eating turkey doesn't make me sleepy either
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Old 11-05-2010, 06:30 PM
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Oh Stacy, I feel for ya! I take Ambien, since I have been on steroids -- cant sleep at all. I have also tried natural things such as valerian root, hops, skullcap (these have worked for me in the past when not on steroids, but can leave you feeling kinda groggy the next day, but everyone processes these differently) I know that if try too hard to get to sleep, I cant, and then toss and turn. I also sleep with earplugs (the pretty pink ones from your local drug store)-- I guess trial and error is what you may have to do. Best of luck, and remember, you are not alone
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Old 11-06-2010, 08:15 PM
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I also take Ambien. As for OTC..I would recommend Melatolin (spelling?) its would be in the vitamin/supplement section. 3-5mg should do it for you..the smooshy "gel" or whatever pills work faster than the hard ones.
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Old 11-06-2010, 08:34 PM
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Thanks Cielo, I'll check that out next time I'm at the store. Kim, thank you too, I'll add those to my list of things to try! I'd love to be able to pass out by midnight for a change!
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Old 11-06-2010, 08:46 PM
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Also try a Magnesium supplement. I started taking it nightly when I was having trouble sleeping. After taking it for a couple of months, I sleep like the dead. It's a common mineral that people are deficient in and it really helps your circadian rhythm get back to normal. I've never tried melatonin but have heard good things about it as well.
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:34 PM
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steph, i have heard that ab magnesium, too. i am definitely going to try this bc i have sleep issues, as well.
stacy-i take "mid-nite" which is melatonin, i think but it claims that you can take it if you have trouble falling asleep or if you wake up and cant get back to sleep (both happens to me and i can sympathize how badly it sucks espec when it's night after night) and not have you be groggy in the morning. about 90% of the time it works for me but sometimes it doesnt?? i want to try the magnesium. i have done the ambien in the past and it worked well for the time i took it! hugs to you!
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Old 11-08-2010, 09:36 PM
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Melatonin works, for the most part. Its very subtle since its a substance that your body produces naturally. I've used it for awhile, its nice. If you really need something, Simply Sleep is basically Tylenol PM without the Tylenol. It knocks me out into a coma...but then I have trouble waking up. I was really loopy once and couldn't stop laughing at stuff when I woke up
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Old 11-09-2010, 08:07 AM
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^ yes, another vote for melatonin. I use it on long flights.

At home, I'll take a Benadryl or Nyquil. It gives me a good peaceful sleep. Essentially, an antihistamine that will make your drowsy, not the non-drowsy ones.
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Old 11-09-2010, 08:25 AM
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diphenhydramine is the antihistamine in benadryl/ other cold meds that tends to knock people out. im similar to emily- have trouble waking up after taking it. its generally safe to take for sleep for the younger population, although you really dont want to have to depend on it. some people say supplements like melatonin help. studies can go both ways on this. i think the production of melatonin increases over night, with sleep, so people think that artifically increasing it will help sleep. didnt work for me but perhaps could for you. it would also be helpful to know why you cant fall asleep (not tired? anxiety? etc.)
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:59 AM
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^ I have to be completely exhausted, to the point of nearly passing out/cant see clearly, to fall asleep. I just toss and turn, and cannot turn my head off. Music doesn't help, white noise doesn't help, counting sheep doesn't help. I try to just focus on my breathing, but I always end up thinking about the day, or what I need to do the next day, or the kids, or... well you get it.

Once I'm asleep, I could sleep for 15+ hours straight. Sometimes I do on the weekends when DH is home to watch the boys.
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I've found melatonin doesn't really do it for me like benadryl or tylenol PM which really knock me out. I go through phases of pretty bad insomnia and when it's at its worst I've taken benadryl/tylenol PM daily for weeks at a time, which I hate doing (and it's sooo hard to wake up) but when you're at the point where you NEED sleep to function, it's hard to say no to something you know will work for you. I have found that the only time I can shut my mind down is when I'm at the gym on the treadmill (and I don't even enjoy running) - there is one treadmill at my gym that faces a plain white wall, and I always pick that one, no music, tune everything out, and just focus on breathing and making it through my workout. I don't know if it does anything to help my sleep, but it's a nice break from thinking ALL THE TIME! I know how it feels to try to sleep and have your mind racing, and I hope you find something that works for you!
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Does anyone use any type of sleep aid, that's not prescription? I've been having a hard time falling asleep for a couple of months now , and the 5-6 hours of sleep a day are really starting to get to me.

Warm milk, tastes really weird, and doesn't help. And eating turkey doesn't make me sleepy either
I can understand how that is making you feel. In case you are willing to you can try out the night meditation. It is actually refreshing and nice it makes you sleep soundly and is very beneficial.
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Melatonin worked terrible for me!!!! It gave me a very light sleep and night sweats. The thing that worked for me was a cup of green tea in the morning with a calcium magnesium tablet. No caffeine after 5 then before bed a cup of decaf green tea and another calcium magnesium tablet. Not only does this combo help you sleep normal, it's great for keeping body fat at bay. It won't burn it off but it will help you not to store it. I didn't make this stuff up BTW or find it online. A had a nutritionist for a while and she put me on it. Works great for both purposes! Good Luck!
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I realize this thread was a necrobump of spam, but while it is here... has melatonin ever made anyone here feel... weird? I do not sleep anymore, can fall asleep without a problem but then wake up quickly and am finished. I tried this, and while it did seem to help a bit, i felt incredibly bizarre in the morning. Almost dizzy and sorta wacked out? Almost panic-attacky. I was thinking maybe I just took too much, so i broke the tab in half the next night and it didn't work
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I realize this thread was a necrobump of spam, but while it is here... has melatonin ever made anyone here feel... weird? I do not sleep anymore, can fall asleep without a problem but then wake up quickly and am finished. I tried this, and while it did seem to help a bit, i felt incredibly bizarre in the morning. Almost dizzy and sorta wacked out? Almost panic-attacky. I was thinking maybe I just took too much, so i broke the tab in half the next night and it didn't work
I take Excedrin PM and that works great for me. I used to take Alteril. It is a natural sleep aid. Maybe you could try that out. I found Alteril to be gentle with not a lot of side effects like you mentioned you had with melatonin. It's sold at most stores and is a bit pricey, but if you want less side effects it's worth it IMO.
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I realize this thread was a necrobump of spam, but while it is here... has melatonin ever made anyone here feel... weird? I do not sleep anymore, can fall asleep without a problem but then wake up quickly and am finished. I tried this, and while it did seem to help a bit, i felt incredibly bizarre in the morning. Almost dizzy and sorta wacked out? Almost panic-attacky. I was thinking maybe I just took too much, so i broke the tab in half the next night and it didn't work
I turned to melatonin a while back to remedy sleep problems and found it worked quite well. I was a little hesitant as I did not wish to develop a dependence on a drug to fall asleep so I make sure I use it as little as possible. When I first started using it I noticed my dreams were much more vivid and on occasion did feel a little odd upon waking in the morning. I wouldn't say "panic-attacky" or unrested just a little off, but rested. I also noticed being more itchy than usual at first. This all has gone away over time. I haven't actually used the melatonin recently because I am back to my regular swim schedule which keeps me pretty exhausted on it's own so I can fall asleep anywhere. As a proponent of physical exercise I find it is always the best remedy to sleep troubles. Exhaust your body to the point it needs sleep and it will come.
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I realize this thread was a necrobump of spam, but while it is here... has melatonin ever made anyone here feel... weird? I do not sleep anymore, can fall asleep without a problem but then wake up quickly and am finished. I tried this, and while it did seem to help a bit, i felt incredibly bizarre in the morning. Almost dizzy and sorta wacked out? Almost panic-attacky. I was thinking maybe I just took too much, so i broke the tab in half the next night and it didn't work
My husband says he feels groggy the morning after he takes a Melatonin to help him fall asleep. Also, if you take one and then you get less than 8 hrs of sleep I think the 'after effects' are worse.
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Old 12-08-2011, 12:59 PM
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Yeah if you don't get the recommended "8 hours", that sounds like how I feel when I don't anyway. There is different types of it too, I noticed that when I take gels vs. the chalky pills - as they work differently and have different results IMO. Also pay attention to the amount of mg as I've seen up to 15mg or more.
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