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Old 06-02-2006, 10:04 PM
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Well, because I recently changed my CC billing address and mistakenly gave the seller the wrong address, my credit card was declined. I take that as fate stepping in to tell me not to buy from them, even though I still am not totally convinced one way or the other that they are authentic or fake. I asked the seller to just cancel the transaction, because with me moving my finances and addresses are so crazy. Hopefully she will be reasonable and we can just agree to mutually not complete the transaction so that neither of us is charged. And I will continue on the hunt for hair products at a reasonable price...
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Old 06-02-2006, 10:22 PM
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i know if you call sfam or tr they will tell you dailydenim and other auth. sellers are selling fakes...im not making a judgement on the shampoo, but it seems like most companies are against having their products being sold on ebay even if they are real. the fact that its being shipped from mexico from a u.s. seller sounds sketchy and i think you are making the right decision not to buy from them.
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Old 06-02-2006, 10:47 PM
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i know if you call sfam or tr they will tell you dailydenim and other auth. sellers are selling fakes...im not making a judgement on the shampoo, but it seems like most companies are against having their products being sold on ebay even if they are real. the fact that its being shipped from mexico from a u.s. seller sounds sketchy and i think you are making the right decision not to buy from them.
OK...It may be authentic! BUT!!! OLD!!! EXPIRED! Nasty! It's your hair, don't cry to me if it smells, and turns out nasty. People steal expired product, instead of throwing it out.
One question, do you not value my word as a hair stylist?
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Old 06-02-2006, 10:56 PM
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So wait, the sebastian and Tigi at my Harris Teeter is fake? Or old?
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Old 06-02-2006, 11:00 PM
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yeah, i definately get what you are saying...i guess its different from jeans in that you can authenticate them by a picture but even if you could authenticate the bottle of shampoo with a pic you still arent guaranteed to get a fresh product. dont worry tina, i'm not going to buy any shampoo on ebay

i have another question- why dont they put an experation date on hair care products? i've only seen it on dandruff/medicated shampoo. i know some lotions, sunscreen, deodarant, & face wash have exp. dates, so i'm curious why i dont see it on shampoo. i'm glad i know better than to buy it at target now even though its cheaper.
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Old 06-02-2006, 11:02 PM
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i had to look up harris teeter, its a grocery store chain for those who dont know.
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Old 06-02-2006, 11:15 PM
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So wait, the sebastian and Tigi at my Harris Teeter is fake? Or old?
what type of place is that?
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Old 06-02-2006, 11:20 PM
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yeah, i definately get what you are saying...i guess its different from jeans in that you can authenticate them by a picture but even if you could authenticate the bottle of shampoo with a pic you still arent guaranteed to get a fresh product. dont worry tina, i'm not going to buy any shampoo on ebay

i have another question- why dont they put an experation date on hair care products? i've only seen it on dandruff/medicated shampoo. i know some lotions, sunscreen, deodarant, & face wash have exp. dates, so i'm curious why i dont see it on shampoo. i'm glad i know better than to buy it at target now even though its cheaper.

It's part of the code that is on the bottom of the bottle, it also tracks who bought it. I sign contracts, that I won't divert, or will lose my privilege to buy for life. I also face prosecution
Also dandruff shampoo, has medication in it.
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i've seen the code but couldnt make sense of it- is there a way to read it so the average person can tell how old it is?
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:00 AM
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i've seen the code but couldnt make sense of it- is there a way to read it so the average person can tell how old it is?
Yep, it is scanned as it leaves TIGI, scanned at supply house, then when I buy it. If TIGI finds it, outside of a salon, they track it back to me. I don't know the code, but it's all in there. I never resale outside the salon. If my gal pals need things, they go with me, and just pay me my price.
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Old 06-03-2006, 05:51 AM
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I love that you know so much about it, Tigi! I never had answers till now... I'll never buy from a drugstore again! Places in the mall, like TradeSecret sell the real stuff, right??
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Old 06-03-2006, 07:04 AM
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So wait, the sebastian and Tigi at my Harris Teeter is fake? Or old?
OOohhhh! Good old Hairy Peter!!! I miss that store! Where are you? I haven't had the pleasure since I moved up north.

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Old 06-03-2006, 07:15 AM
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i know if you call sfam or tr they will tell you dailydenim and other auth. sellers are selling fakes...im not making a judgement on the shampoo, but it seems like most companies are against having their products being sold on ebay even if they are real. the fact that its being shipped from mexico from a u.s. seller sounds sketchy and i think you are making the right decision not to buy from them.
Yeah, honestly it was the Mexico thing that seemed a bit weird to me. Who knows though. To solve the mystery once and for all, once I move in to my new place I might order some of the small travel sized items from them to see how they work out. That way if they are fake, old, whatever, I've only spent like $20 instead of $80. I have bought Bb online before and been very happy with my purchase, and I've also bought Tigi products at Nordstrom Rack, and I'm sure TigiStylist will just tell me I'm stupid and can't tell the difference, but my Curls Rock from NR works just as well as the stuff I bought in the salon.
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Old 06-03-2006, 08:14 AM
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The same reasons you want authentic jeans, and don't buy fakes. Should be the same for your hair care products. I guess you demand the best for your butt, but don't care that the product you put on your hair is, stolen, expired, diverted. Taking money away from every hair stylist out there.
If we were talking facial products would you still take the risk? Enjoy it while you can, we are fighting diversion, and will win. Then no drug store, or online store will have our lines. I'm very defensive over this, as it makes us as professionals look bad. Our products are the best, and to buy diverted, spoiled, or counterfeit product, you are contributing to the theft, or counterfeiter. These are not honest people selling the products.
Thanks for the NR info, just called the diversion hotline, and reported it. All I get from this is a Thank you. I do it to protect my industry.
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Old 06-03-2006, 08:40 AM
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Thanks. Anything else you'd like to add?
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:18 PM
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what type of place is that?
grocery chain, comparable to a kroger or a whole foods.
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:20 PM
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But how can a place like target sell TIGI or Sebastian and do it legally?
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Old 06-03-2006, 04:04 PM
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But how can a place like target sell TIGI or Sebastian and do it legally?
From what Tigi says, they can't. But that doesn't mean they don't get away with it


I once made the mistake of buying my aveda control paste off ebay...it was RANCID. It may have been real, but YUCK!!!
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Old 06-03-2006, 04:22 PM
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how much legal trouble can a place like target get in trouble for selling TIGI... seems like the small profit they would get off it wouldnt be worth the legal risks
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I am so glad I found this thread. I recently got some Halo brand (I think it's made by Graham Webb) at a trade secret back east and loved it. I can't find it near me so I looked on ebay. I almost bought some last week. NO More! I will continue my search for salons.
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Old 06-05-2006, 04:00 AM
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Tigi-

I understand most of what you are saying. But one question??

Do the "beauty supply shops" that have like one stylist in the back count as a salon in terms of suppliers guarantee and trusting them to be real and good products?
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Old 06-05-2006, 05:13 AM
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I understand most of what you are saying. But one question??

Do the "beauty supply shops" that have like one stylist in the back count as a salon in terms of suppliers guarantee and trusting them to be real and good products?
That is how they get around it As long as they have a full set up, and one stylist, they can buy product. It's a sneaky way around it, and never get your hair cut there, but the product is real.
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Old 06-05-2006, 02:34 PM
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I have 2 things to say about this thread:

First - I once bought fake bed head conditioner on ebay, from seller Floor88 (just so it's searchable). It sucked and I was pissed, but it was conditioner...oh well.

Second - the name media-mover seemed familiar to me, so I searched my email, and I realized that I bought 2 Bumble and Bumble products from them - sumotech and surf spray. Both 100% authentic and great.

I think despite the negatives, they're legit. I had a positive experince with them and loved the products.
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Old 06-05-2006, 03:29 PM
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NOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo
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Old 06-05-2006, 05:11 PM
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But how can a place like target sell TIGI or Sebastian and do it legally?
It's not legal, and TIGI is in court with them. It is diverted product, or expired. That a wholesale/beautysupply, sold them. They should not have sold to them. The wholesale will lose their right to buy any TIGI product, and will face charges by TIGI.
Recently we sign contracts now with TIGI, and all other product lines, if we divert, we lose our right to purchase.
Sometimes, it is also fake, or stolen product.
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