Presidential Debate(s) Thread

[Sehnsucht]

Originally Posted by sammywhammy007

Since when do people who have brains and can think take Sean Hannity seriously? Hannity show is targeted for people below IQ of 50 who live in trailer parks and make minimum wage, but think they are superior because they are white and they believe in Jesus(with blonde hair & blue eyes).
Sean Hannity belongs in the big, fat idiot club along with Rush Limbaugh and Bill O' clown and they can all go assfuck Ann Coulter because she can handle 3 rightwing idiots at the same time

I love Hannity.

Sounds like someone is jealous they don't have blond hair and blue eyes , what ethnicity are you SW007? You seem to have something against the average Caucasian American.

Bill o'clown?

srsly?

[Phishphood]

Originally Posted by Sehnsucht

lol

david, dennis, same thing.

Well I guess I can't really expect someone who gets their news from youtube videos to get all the facts right

[pinchy]

this is going to end well...

[Sehnsucht]

Originally Posted by Phishphood

Well I guess I can't really expect someone who gets their news from youtube videos to get all the facts right

except my youtube vids are clips from FOX news and CNN.............

[sammywhammy007]

Originally Posted by Sehnsucht

I love Hannity.
Sounds like someone is jealous they don't have blond hair and blue eyes , what ethnicity are you SW007? You seem to have something against the average Caucasian American.

I am very,very surprised and shocked you love Hannity.

And yes, I am very, very jealous of people with blond hair and blue eyes. (Especially if it is Jesus) I am a racist like Michelle Obama, who has something against the 'average Caucasian American'. Don't you know?

I shall concede in the Imhoptep tradition

[aswin]

Every representation of Jesus I've seen, he's had BROWN hair and eyes Just sayin'

[sammywhammy007]

Originally Posted by aswin

Every representation of Jesus I've seen, he's had BROWN hair and eyes Just sayin'

You must be seeing the Asia Pacific and African edition of Jesus.

[aswin]

Originally Posted by sammywhammy007

You must be seeing the Asia Pacific and African edition of Jesus.

Mmm, I think not

[sammywhammy007]

Originally Posted by aswin

Mmm, I think not

Dude looked different in the ones I have seen. Maybe he had a makeover and got blue contacts before posing for the pics I have seen.

ETA: He also looks well groomed with trimmed beard and mustache and looks like he uses Awapuhi shampoo for his long, flowing hair. Looks good for a shepherd from the middle east, 2000 years ago, if you ask me.

[Phishphood]

Originally Posted by Sehnsucht

except my youtube vids are clips from FOX news and CNN.............

Getting your information from the tv is just as bad, fox might even be a step down

[alcoholic]

Originally Posted by Sehnsucht

and clinton had a lot to do with any riff-raff being able to purchase a home with bad credit and no money down, setting up the problems we encounter now.

The 'Community Reinvestment Act' was expanded under Clinton. It was basically created to expand home ownership to Blacks and Hispanics.

However, it forced banks to lend to people with little-to-no-credit and didn't meet income requirements.

There weren't protests when home prices continued to grow by leaps and bounds... but now that people can't afford their interest-only or variable mortgages-- things collapsed. I don't want to bailout the idiots who signed-up for these mortgages or the people who lent to them.

Why does the responsible citizen who bought a home they can afford and works hard always get screwed to have to get their money stolen from them to pay for the lazy and stupid of the country?

[Sehnsucht]

on the money alcoholic, that's exactly what he created. But everyone blames the Bush administration for the housing/mortgage crisis when this started way before Bush was elected.

as for jesus, he was around 5'4'' and very dark (possibly never existed at all.) Obviously the Romans drew him to look beautiful and gave him the attributes of what was considered beautiful at the time (big brow, blue eyes, etc)

tbh, anyone with natural blonde hair/blue eyes > 98% of the population.

In about 35 years they will be near impossible to find. The Moroccans abduct natural blondes and use them as sex slaves and they fetch thousands more than commoners, if they find she's a fake blonde, they throw her out... something I read from the BCC news site.

There are 3 groups of elitists. The ones who think they're the best looking, the wealthy, or posses the greatest wit and intellect. Everyone tries to fit into at least one category and if they are lacking in one, they try to make up in the other.

yeahhh.....

[nicole44]

Originally Posted by sammywhammy007

Campaign contributions are the bane of our political system and the media will not dwell and harp on it too much. We have come to accept it as part of the system and until that changes, hardly anyone cares.

And oh please, if you are buying into John McCain's 'I am trying to do something' horse and pony show on everything. McCain is no straight shooter or squeaky clean guy. He has lobbyists running his campaign. He was part of the Keating 5 in the S&L scandal. And he tried to intervene to help his disgraced criminal buddy, Fife Symington, the former criminally indicted governor of AZ for fraud. McCain is so full of shit on his false Mr Clean image, it makes me wanna puke.

Obama is no saint or Gandhi and he is a politician and I have come to terms with that fact. But atleast he has divergent paths and opinions on pressing issues facing this country. And he is educated and eloquent, unlike McCain. I am not expecting Obama to turn US into Utopia, but he atleast has the right ideas to lead us in a different path than the one we have been quagmired for the past 8 yrs. So in absence of better choices, Obama looks dandy to me in terms of promise and potential. Atleast he deserves a chance to prove himself.

For all the hate you have for Bill Clinton, he did a fantastic job as a President. And I could give a flying fuck how many blowjobs he got. He executed his responsibilities in a fine manner and that is what I care in the end. Not who blew his whistle. (And yeah, frankly I wish Bill had gotten some better chicks to blow him than govt clerks and chubby interns. Atleast his mentor & idol had class in who he fucked )

ETA: And Bill Clinton left office with a 65% approval rating. And even if you give GWB a handicap and let him cheat and add Dick Cheney's approval rating to his, he is still like 20+ % behind in approval ratings

I am not talking about Bill Clinton and his blowjobs. He is over and done and there is no need to reminisce about the past.

I am not talking about McCain being a squeaky clean guy. I know he is not. I am not talking merely about contributions.

I am talking about journalism and the biasd media not doing their jobs. They don't want to expand on the whole FM/FM issue because they don't want a shitstorm and a backlash against the democrats. If it were repubes at the root of this thing it would be all over the place and you know it.

[nicole44]

Also, why have so many people gotten so shrill in their responses in this thread? I can't even read through a lot of it because of the name calling and race card BS that is always used to extinguish an argument.

So many of you think this is a left leaning forum but the truth is that many don't want to bother trying to have a rational discussion with members who make posts like a few in this thread. There is no point to it. Oh and how did this thread turn into Jesus?

[frankie1980]

McCain sought hardly to give the image of an experienced politician of himself when he went after Obama for being "naïve" or used his oft-repeated "doesn't understand" line but he rather gave a negative impression of himself and appeared like an old cranky man.

[sammywhammy007]

Originally Posted by nicole44

I am talking about journalism and the biasd media not doing their jobs. They don't want to expand on the whole FM/FM issue because they don't want a shitstorm and a backlash against the democrats. If it were repubes at the root of this thing it would be all over the place and you know it.

There has been plenty of articles on FNM and FRE in the media since 2004/2005 in the financial sections. More than fair coverage as to how these two are impending financial disasters waiting to happen. These companies were the worst run companies on the face of the planet laden with fraud, corruption and scandals and they had so many accounting irregularities and restated earnings umpteen times. But the mainstream in this country do not read about it. They read about it only when they implode.

And oh please, media has a bias for democrats? since when? This is the same media which sold and brainwashed everyone about the war on terror and the atrocious Bush invasion plan of Iraq. They just pandered whatever the common man would buy. It is almost shameful, the mainstream media in this country was solely responsible for pandering the Iraq War to Americans and the Cowboy diplomacy 'You are either with us or against us' crap. Barring very few independent thinkers in the media and very small section of the population, the media and the people in this country surrendered their civil rights and bought into a war filled with lies and smokescreen like sheep. The War on Terror is the biggest sham sold by the media and the Republican administration to keep people in fear so they can fuck you over taking away your civil liberties and invade nations so their criminal corporate buddies can benefit from war profiteering. And it was also the same media which brought the ABu Ghraib scandal and the Plamegate to light after realizing how bad they fucked up selling the false Iraq War.

So get this illusion out of your head that somehow the media favors the democrats over republicans. They pander whatever sells and whatever people would buy. And unfortunately, the average american is not interested in knowing about impending financial disasters until shit hits the fan. They are more interested in American Idol, Survivor and who is going to win those than which bank or financial institution is waiting to implode. So the media panders what the demographics demand so their Nielsen ratings would look good.

[dannysgirl45]

I agree with you, Nicole- I'm not sure where this thread got so angry! In my opinion, there's no reason to bash Michelle Obama. She seems classy and intelligent, and frankly, for the last eight years, there have been many things we've done as a country that I am not proud of. I believe the way she stated it was taken in a direction not intended, and I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. She's not the one running for president and I'm glad to know that she's smart enough to have her own opinions.

For those of you bashing Clinton, it's a little ridiculous to say he's responsible for the economic crisis we're having now. The budget was balanced under his administration, we had a huge surplus, everyone was prospering and I think the country was headed in a good direction. Along with the fact that the Republican party caters to the upper class and would ideally get rid of the middle class completely, we've spent so much money on the war in Iraq that it's assinine to put that responsibility on Clinton.

Money is the root of all evil, and as a general rule, the people who HAVE the money and want to keep it in their pockets are the Republicans. I have a hard time understanding how you can say "Let's take care of our Veterans" and then slash funds that benefit the homeless, many of which are veterans. I don't get how you can say you have foreign policy experience, yet haven't done anything to make serious effort to help those in Africa who are dying of AIDS, malaria, and genocide.

I just want to know where general human kindness and compassion went. I know I feel better when I help someone who needs it and if I had millions of dollars, I would pass it out like candy. I'm poor now and I'll be poor again, we're all going to die and we can't take anything with us. It's much more satisfying in my eyes to know that I'm helping someone else than to pretend that poverty and misjustice don't exist.

[frankie1980]

Originally Posted by Imhotep

yes, that's the reason. not inevitable, but there's a high risk of it.

the people that want rid of bush are generally educated people who don't use violence as their means. the people who are most against having a black president, are generally a different breed altogether.

you find it disgusting that people realize that the reality is that there is harcore racism present in the United States, and consider the consequences of that? i dont know nicole, it seems like a reasonable consideration to me.

You are totally right Vik and for that reason I think the US need more weapon control bc those deadly objects could easily get into criminal hands.

[sammywhammy007]

Originally Posted by nicole44

Also, why have so many people gotten so shrill in their responses in this thread? I can't even read through a lot of it because of the name calling and race card BS that is always used to extinguish an argument.

All those are from a guy who was previously banned but then the mods take time to catch on to previously banned people reappearing in different ids

Originally Posted by nicole44

So many of you think this is a left leaning forum but the truth is that many don't want to bother trying to have a rational discussion with members who make posts like a few in this thread. There is no point to it. Oh and how did this thread turn into Jesus?

Uhmm because I mentioned the how Jesus has blond hair and blue eyes in America in a post and some geniuses literally took it upon themselves to prove how Jesus looks. One person even went to the extent of posting a portrait of Jesus. Thats how Jesus descended into this thread. You must have missed the 'blond hair, blue eye' pride theme running in this thread

Originally Posted by sammywhammy007

Since when do people who have brains and can think take Sean Hannity seriously? Hannity show is targeted for people below IQ of 50 who live in trailer parks and make minimum wage, but think they are superior because they are white and they believe in Jesus(with blonde hair & blue eyes).

[nicole44]

Originally Posted by sammywhammy007

There has been plenty of articles on FNM and FRE in the media since 2004/2005 in the financial sections. More than fair coverage as to how these two are impenidng financial disasters waiting to happen. These companies were the worst run companies on the face of the planet laden with fraud, corruption and scandals and they had so many accounting irregularities and restated earnings umpteen times. But the mainstream in this country do not read about it. They read about it only when they implode.

And oh please, media has a bias for democrats? since when? This is the same media which sold and brainwashed everyone about the war on terror and the atrocious Bush invasion plan of Iraq. They just pandered whatever the common man would buy. It is almost shameful, the mainstream media in this country was solely responsible for pandering the Iraq War to Americans and the Cowboy diplomacy 'You are either with us or against us' crap. Barring very few independent thinkers in the media and very small section of the population, the media and the people in this country surrendered their civil rights and bought into a war filled with lies and smokescreen like sheep. The War on Terror is the biggest sham sold by the media and the Republican administration to keep people in fear so they can fuck you over taking away your civil liberties and invade nations so their criminal corporate buddies can benefit from war profiteering. And it was also the same media which brought the ABu Ghraib scandal and the Plamegate to light after realizing how bad they fucked up selling the false Iraq War.

So get this illusion out of your head that somehow the media favors the dmeocrats over republicans. They pander whatever sells and whatever people would buy. And unfortunately, the average american is not interested in knowing about impending financial disasters until shit hits the fan. They are more interested in American Idol, Survivor and who is going to win those than which bank or financial institution is waiting to implode. So the media panders what the demographics demand so their Nielsen ratings would look good.

First off you have no place telling me how or what to think so I would appreciate it if you didn't try.

Its still a crock of shit. The media is not reporting what they should be. I have heard more about Larry "wide stance" Craig trying to get a gay blowjob in an airport bathroom than I have heard of who is actually responsible for a large part of this clusterfuck. I had to go digging for it.

When you talk of these companies being the worst run on the face of the planet are you talking about Franklin Raines?

[nicole44]

Originally Posted by sammywhammy007

All those are from a guy who was previously banned but then the mods take time to catch on to previously banned people reappearing in different ids



Uhmm because I mentioned the how Jesus has blond hair and blue eyes in America in a post and some geniuses literally took it upon themselves to prove how Jesus looks. One person even went to the extent of posting a portrait of Jesus. Thats how Jesus descended into this thread. You must have missed the 'blond hair, blue eye' pride theme running in this thread

Yes, I tend to skip over posts that really add nothing to a civil discussion (at first) about presidential politics. Its all getting a little childish in here now. I guess I'm done.

[sammywhammy007]

Originally Posted by nicole44

First off you have no place telling me how or what to think so I would appreciate it if you didn't try.

Its still a crock of shit. The media is not reporting what they should be. I have heard more about Larry "wide stance" Craig trying to get a gay blowjob in an airport bathroom than I have heard of who is actually responsible for a large part of this clusterfuck. I had to go digging for it.

When you talk of these companies being the worst run on the face of the planet are you talking about Franklin Raines?

Larry Craig getting gay blowjobs sell in media. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac imploding do not. And that does not obliterate the fact that there were hundreds of articles on Fannie & Freddie in the media for the last 3 to 4 years. And yes, I am talking about Frank Raines and other misfits who ran those companies. Those two were the biggest financial disasters.

So everyone wakes up in the past 2 weeks and all curious about Fannie and Freddie and Lehman and AIG and Merrill and Citi when all this were brewing for years. There were so many articles in the media about all of them and the impending, inevitable financial crisis for years. You know what people chose to call them who called out this financial disasters years ago? Nutjobs, Whackjobs and Doomsayers. I think all those doomsayers are laughing now.

[treasurehoard]

Originally Posted by sammywhammy007

looks like design made a comeback...

Now he is back out on the street riding the bus again.

In the future would someone please PM a mod if this is happening. We can't be every where at once. Problems like this will be dealt with quickly just PM one of us to take out the trash.

[nicole44]

Originally Posted by sammywhammy007