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Old 05-15-2007, 12:09 PM
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I know this is a dumb thing to complain about, but for the past month I've been running an hour four times a week, and I gave up desserts, sugary food, etc. I've been really good about sticking to this, and have been eating really healthy meals (I only eat breakfast and dinner). The goal of this is to be in better health/shape all around, and I do feel I have more energy, etc. BUT I've also gained a few pounds. WhY?? I mean I know it's probably muscle weight, but still, isn't the overall effect supposed to be either staying at my usual weight or losing weight? I really know I shouldn't be complaining, because I'm not overweight, but I've gone from 113lbs to 117lbs this month, and I am kinda annoyed...please don't kick me for being stupid since I know that is not THAT much weight. I guess I just needed to vent a bit and ask you guys whether you've had similar effects of changing your lifestyle to completely healthy argggg.
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Old 05-15-2007, 12:15 PM
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Aaaw- *hugs*!

Considering that you don't eat several small meals a day, it's a hard task for your body anyway. Have you considered eating better? Your body might already have gone into starvation mode and cling to everything it gets. Also you might have fluid retention.
Eat four meals a day. Weigh yourself only once a week. See it as a new lifestyle, not a diet. Appreciate getting fitter, and eating better.
I bet if you start doing the above, you'll get a great bod after a few weeks.
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Old 05-15-2007, 12:26 PM
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^Jenn, I think that is really good advice, about eating four small meals. It's hard for me though, unfortunately I have had a sort of "eating disorder" mentality for as long as I can remember, maybe since I was in 4th grade?? where I really don't like the feeling of food in my stomach (I know that is weird...), and I am really controlling about what I eat, not so much to be thin as to have the control feeling over something, if that makes sense, so I just end up not wanting to eat most of the day. Now that I live with my boyfriend, he makes me eat breakfast and then I always end up wanting dinner because I'm hungry by then, but it's hard for me to think of transitioning to eating more than I already do, which is really not that much, but feels safe. (I am trying to get better about this...it's sort of always been so second-nature to be controlling about food because I'm really ocd in my life in general). One of the reasons I started exercising is that I feel more hungry more often, which I imagine is healthy!

Anyway...ugg that felt weirdly revealing of something I'm ashamed of...but Jenn- what would you suggest as a good portion size for 4 meals a day? I may try it since it might be a way to break this dumb habit I have around food. I trust your suggetions, so I'm willing to try it.
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Old 05-15-2007, 12:35 PM
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^Jenn, I think that is really good advice, about eating four small meals. It's hard for me though, unfortunately I have had a sort of "eating disorder" mentality for as long as I can remember, maybe since I was in 4th grade?? where I really don't like the feeling of food in my stomach (I know that is weird...), and I am really controlling about what I eat, not so much to be thin as to have the control feeling over something, if that makes sense, so I just end up not wanting to eat most of the day. Now that I live with my boyfriend, he makes me eat breakfast and then I always end up wanting dinner because I'm hungry by then, but it's hard for me to think of transitioning to eating more than I already do, which is really not that much, but feels safe. (I am trying to get better about this...it's sort of always been so second-nature to be controlling about food because I'm really ocd in my life in general). One of the reasons I started exercising is that I feel more hungry more often, which I imagine is healthy!

Anyway...ugg that felt weirdly revealing of something I'm ashamed of...but Jenn- what would you suggest as a good portion size for 4 meals a day? I may try it since it might be a way to break this dumb habit I have around food. I trust your suggetions, so I'm willing to try it.
It's great that you're trying to get better- what would be better would be if you would get some help from a pro. Seriously, what you describe is very very easy for me to relate to. It took 1.5 years of therapy for me, and now I'm "normal". Would it be possible for you to get help? I've been there, and I know this can spiral downwards, too.
I'd try different types of food (healthy, like veggie and whole grain stuff) to see what your tummy likes. Perhaps it likes a small portion of a soy bar? And then a whole one? Or fruit (try a banana, less acid than an apple). Or some spoonfuls of yogurt. And so on, and so on. Many choices!
Don't tell yourself that you *have* to eat a portion of this or that size. Rather just try to eat and see how you feel. What doesn't help at all is pressure from yourself.
How about choosing some options to take with you if you're out during the day, or prepare and put everything together in one place if you're at home. Then try to pick something every two hours.
You can also try smoothies, toss soy milk and frozen fruit in a blender. You can also use yogurt, and a few nuts.
(But, hon, if you can, get professional help. Being ocd with food is a serious business. )
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I know it's serious...I've actually recently asked my parents whether they'd help pay for a nutritionist, since I feel like that might be a good way to start, except that I can't afford it on my own since I'm on a student's budget. I'm just so busy right now with my Master's thesis due in 3 weeks, and of course the stress makes it worse But I will try your suggestions about trying different foods out and having a few different snacks with me, could be sort of fun, like taste testing Smoothies are a good idea, too, because it seems like that would feel more liquid-like than food-like, whic could be a good start.

Anyway, thanks so much for writing back to this...it's good for me to hear other people besides my boyfriend and parents tell me it isn't a healthy mentality, since I'm sure you know how easy it is to convince yourself it's normal...
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Old 05-15-2007, 01:00 PM
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I know it's serious...I've actually recently asked my parents whether they'd help pay for a nutritionist, since I feel like that might be a good way to start, except that I can't afford it on my own since I'm on a student's budget. I'm just so busy right now with my Master's thesis due in 3 weeks, and of course the stress makes it worse But I will try your suggestions about trying different foods out and having a few different snacks with me, could be sort of fun, like taste testing Smoothies are a good idea, too, because it seems like that would feel more liquid-like than food-like, whic could be a good start.

Anyway, thanks so much for writing back to this...it's good for me to hear other people besides my boyfriend and parents tell me it isn't a healthy mentality, since I'm sure you know how easy it is to convince yourself it's normal...
Gon't get a nutritionist, you need a therapist/ counsellor who is specialized on eating disorders. I bet there is one at your university, or a possibility to see one somehow, as so many people at university have problems like this.
I'd start "taste testing" now, as it would be much healthier for you, and perhaps you like it, too.
After your thesis, try to get some serious help. Don't let your life be dictated to you by being ocd.
Ya, I know it's easy to pretend it's normal. It's not though, and dangerous too. So for now, finish your thesis (I'm working on one too, hope to finish this week! ), then get help. And get better!
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I need to remember to reply to this later...lots of it is VERY familiar.
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Old 05-15-2007, 05:05 PM
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TAKE MEASUREMENTS. The scale is retarded.
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Old 05-15-2007, 05:52 PM
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i use the mirror as a scale.
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Old 05-15-2007, 07:26 PM
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i use the mirror as a scale.
Somehow I don't think that would work for the OP. ;) People with disordered eating that may cross the line into a clinical eating disorder aren't so great at viewing themselves objectively.
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Old 05-15-2007, 07:47 PM
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Try eating right after a workout, it speeds up your metabolism. Try not to skip meals and have more frequent, smaller meals if you can. If you are building muscle you will gain weight, so if you don't look and feel bigger I wouldn't worry about the few extra pounds.
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Old 05-15-2007, 08:38 PM
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I echo Jenn's suggestion to seek some help from a therapist (and I actually think a nutritionist who specializes in disordered eating would be useful as well)-- reading your post more carefully, it sounds like you probably still are not eating "enough" for your body, and the change to eating more that you have been is what you're adjusting to.
I suffered from anorexia & bulimia for over 10 years and have only been in recovery (which is a slow process) for the past 2, and one of the most difficult things for me was starting to normalize my eating patterns and deal with how my body responded to the changes. I did gain some weight (some of which was necessary, so which was not) and it freaked me out. However, my body gradually adjusted to the idea that I was going to feed it regularly and over time my weight settled at a natural, healthy place (which is where it stays when I don't try & fuck with it). It took a long time to get used to eating as much as I need to, and for me, it was actually helpful to get some idea of what portion sizes I should be eating & how often-- otherwise it was too easy for me to eat a spoonful of something & call it a meal.
If you ever want to talk more about this, feel free to PM me...but definitely don't let the slight weight gain lead you to respond in unhealthy ways. My guess is that you aren't at a healthy weight for your body & the gain is your body's confused response to a change in eating patterns.
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Jessani- Thanks so much for your input, it's especially good to hear these things from someone whose gone through it themself. It's so awesome that you have been in recovery for 2 years- that is a huge accomplishment!

You know, it's kind of a relief to let this all out on here, where I feel somewhat anonymous...I didn't even expect to talk about it, but I realize it's behind so much of my thinking, even in what I wear every day, whether I'm feeling good or bad about my body on any given day, etc, so it is related. It's also nice to feel like it's not just my crazy brain, and that other people have gone through it and overcome it (though I wouldn't wish this kind of problem on anyone of course). Anyway, I guess what I'm trying to say is thanks for responding and not being critical- it makes it so much easier to think about/talk about to know there is an open, friendly place to bring things up. I AF
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you're overworking your body. you're doing way too much cardio and not eating enough to re-energize your body.

also, you need about 6 small meals throughout the day to keep your metabolism running.
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Jessani- Thanks so much for your input, it's especially good to hear these things from someone whose gone through it themself. It's so awesome that you have been in recovery for 2 years- that is a huge accomplishment!

You know, it's kind of a relief to let this all out on here, where I feel somewhat anonymous...I didn't even expect to talk about it, but I realize it's behind so much of my thinking, even in what I wear every day, whether I'm feeling good or bad about my body on any given day, etc, so it is related. It's also nice to feel like it's not just my crazy brain, and that other people have gone through it and overcome it (though I wouldn't wish this kind of problem on anyone of course). Anyway, I guess what I'm trying to say is thanks for responding and not being critical- it makes it so much easier to think about/talk about to know there is an open, friendly place to bring things up. I AF
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One other thing I wanted to mention is that everyone gains weight when they start to exercise. It's your muscles storing glycogen, and to store glycogen, they also need to store more water. It's incredibly common and I have honestly read about 20 different people ask the same question as you because so few people know that this happens.

Your body will adjust soon, so rest assured that you didn't gain 4 lbs of fat with that diet and exercise plan. Even if you did though, your weight is still quite low. I suggest you listen to Jessani and Jenn. Both have been through a lot to get where they are, and really know what they're talking about.

You only get one body - respect it. Be careful with starting running that much from no exercise at all. It can cause serious injuries, and running without eating enough food can put you at risk for osteoporosis and stress fractures, and those are not fun at all. Most importantly, you deserve to live without worrying about your weight all the time, and it seems like you know this. I'm glad you feel comfortable enough on AF to talk about this.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:33 AM
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I pretty much agree with everything that everyone said here. Seeing a professional counselor is a great idea. If you are at University maybe you can see if there is someone you can talk to there either free of charge or for a low fee. And don't feel embarrased to talk about it, in fact it is important that you talk about it and get your feelings out in the open.

I do think you may have some body image problems but i also think that a lot of this has to do with control issues, which is totally normal. Many many people who have these sorts of problems (including myself) tend to try to regain control by using food and excersize.

Eating four to six small meals a day is great, and like others have said you can have a cup of yougurt, some cottage cheese and fruit, or a fruit smoothie. I know that you are probably really busy writting your thesis so it is hard to even think about making food, but once you are done try making a good trounded dinner, but make a little extra so that you can pack it away in the fridge for next day's lunch.

And the weight gain is nothing to worry about either. Like many also said it is probably muscle or water weight which will shed if you keep excersizing and eating healthy. But don't over do the excersize because you can exhaust yourself or cause injury. Take it slow and build your way up. Remember, Rome wasn't built in a day.

And remember, we are always here if you need to talk to someone or just vent.
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