Ok so I've noticed that dry denim here has pretty much been limited to nudies and well since I recently (today..lol) got my hands on a pair of Japanese denim, I thought I'd start a Japanese denim thread (like those samurais over in the nudie break-in thread).

Here to start it all is a brand spankin new pair of Pure Blue Japan XX-007's.
These pics are of the jeans in their raw state, so I'm gonna soak them tomorrow so they can shrink and I'll post the update then.





tomorrow they will be much slimmer and form fitting.

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Amazing jeans man, the fit should only get better after the soak. So they are not sanforized then? Oh, and how did you go about aquiring them?

I am still really eager to try this whole Japanese bit out. But don't give up on those Ralfs now.

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Yea man im soaking them right now, ill post an update later. No theyre not sanforized which is why im shrinking them w/the soak.

I got em over at blue in green - a men's lifestyle store, very interesting denim. Its thicker than my RRDS denim and MUCH MUCH more slubby....I didnt even know denim THIS slubby existed. Lol but yea I'm in love w/them.

I cant get over the fact that a friend of mine cringed at the idea that i paid so much for these (they were about the same as my RRDS). But w/e, very few of my friends, if not any of them, understand my denim obsession, haha.

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What size did you get? You're suppose to stick to your true waist/hip size on most unsanforized japanese denim.

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Yea, generally you're supposed to order true to size. Unless you want a really tight you size down. I ordered these in size 30.

Hah awesome, yea I love messing w/the blues scale.

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And heres the update.


My soak setup, I soaked for an hour and a half in hot water, then threw them in the dryer for 30 minutes.


And heres me wearing them post-soak.




Turned out perfect IMO. What do u all think?

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anyone care to differentiate 2-300 dollar japanese denim jeans with the one i got from my local gap? (its selvage)...

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The denim isn't shit.

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LOL!

Although those Gough's you're probably talking about are made of selvage japanese denim, that doesnt exactly mean the quality is superb. Probably better quality than other gap jeans.

I dont think i quite fully understand the implications of your question though. Are you really asking someone to differentiate them? Or implying that you have something almost exactly the same for about 1/5 the price?

In any case, I tried those Gap selvage jeans on a while ago, they were cool, but they just didnt have a small enough size for me.

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Why was I not aware of this? Gap or not, I would imagine they would make a very fine addition.

Spot on fit by the way cabl3.

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I had a pair of Gap Selvedge Drys that a friend of mine gave me to sell. Denim Quality was not comparable to premium.

Its been said before ... just because a pair is selvedge does not mean it is high quality.

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agreed! Those will break in nicely!

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just curious overall about the quality guys..i mean, what makes a quality pair anyway? weave? loom? etc? I've never had a $2-300 pair of japanese denim before so i dont have any way of knowing....

btw, nice jeans!

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the look a bit darker after the soaking. hows that>

Lol yea they were dry too, although after wearing nudie and these bad boys (lol) I wouldnt even waste my time trying to break those in.

thanks man.

Well, to answer your question quickly, you have to feel the denim. Trust me thats the best way of feeling the quality. After wearing my nudies for 4 months and getting these, I feel so uncomfortable in my old jeans (they're waaay too soft and thin!).

Keep in mind that heavier weights in denim does not automatically imply better quality, much like treasure said, selvage doesnt imply quality either. Its more in the weave and the general construction of the denim.

Once again, you should just try the feel of the denim, you'll see the difference right away.

Ohh they were still kinda damp when I wore them, thats why. Lol.
Funny thing though....there was NO indigo loss...the water in my tub wasnt even blue. Im scared now...lol.

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wow never seen/heard of clear water after soaking jeans

just curious, but why do you/should you soak them?

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Here it goes:

Most denim, especially prewashed (pre-faded) denim comes "sanforized". In other words. prior to being sewn together, the factories subject the denim to a compressing, stretching process so that it shrinks as much as possible before its turned into a pair of jeans.

That way, you can buy your jeans at whatever size you think you are and not worry about them shrinking dramatically (sanforized denim shrinks only about 1-3%).

Now, even some dry denims are sanforized (eg. nudies, apc etc.).
In the case of japanese denim, it comes "raw", or un-sanforized, meaning, when you wash them, they will shrink up to 10%. Kinda like a shrink to fit kinda deal.

Which is why I bought these true to size 30"; when I got them pre-soak, the waistline was actually 32"...post soak it is now 30" as the tag reads.

And there ya have it...go to wikipedia and search for sanforization.

How to soak them? Usually a 1-2 hour hot tub soak is good. Then let all excess water fall off for 30 min and throw into the dryer along with two dark towels for 30 mins on high heat. Thats what I did atleast.

And I too am scared at the suprising lack of indigo loss...

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Not all japanese denim is unsanforized. Also, even sanforized denim will shrink around a size after a wash.

True true. Yea I didnt mean to imply that all Japanese denim is unsanforized.

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Let me see if I can't get this thread moving again.

Here are my Uniqlo B-002s, two days old.



Nice and stiff, I love this cut! Probably even more than that of the Olas. The combs set quickly as these are much more heavily starched and constructed of thicker denim than my Olas. I am really looking forward to how these come along.

How are those PBJs coming along cabl3?

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Do you spray water bottle on your honeycombs? Because there is no way they would be that defined after only two days. Unless all you did was squats for 2 straight days...hmm


Looks good though...where did you buy it?

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No spray bottle. No Squats. I sat down and studied for a mid-term while listening to Radiohead for a few hours. Rode my bike on day two for a while. It's possible.

I picked them up at the Uniqlo flagship store in Soho NYC.

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Yess...lookin goooood coni. I'll be giving this thread some love soon...gonna start wearing my PBJs as pictured above.
I had no idea Uniqlo was a Japanese brand. Sounded like american urban-ish to me.

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