Ordered my contest sammies today

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youre gonna love them/

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eww, cept that gordon from BiG called me today and said i'm gettin no red tag, no arcuates...Oh well, I'll live.

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its because levi's f****n sued japanese repro companies

I know it sucks. I wanted a pair of studio d's and maybe some cane's but not sure if i do anymore

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The quality of the jeans have not changed just because the tags have.

I know, but i liked the tags are arcs

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Buy some Levis then...haha

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So dry-cleaning is fine?

wths the big deal about these, u get the pants to fit you. lol doesnt sound that great. maybe i am missing something

I was reading what everyone was saying about being able to wash some jeans made of quality without loosing dye before the six month mark. Do Nudies lose dye easily and are they considered quality jeans?

1. Yes.
2. Eh..., it's a good place to start. Give them a good 6-12 months wear and they'll provide satisfactory results. Just for the record, future questions of this nature would be better placed in the small questions thread.

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Thanks sorry about that!

can i hot soak my pair of N&F's for an hour to shrink them a bit?

i've had them for about 3 months without washing, and i haven't been wearing them for the past month, what i mean is.. they aren't completely broken into yet.. they aren't honeycomb'd a lot. is this okay to do? i mean i just want to shrink them.. i'm thinking hot soaking them inside out would be better for minimal dye loss? am i just an idiot?

so let me sum this up for you to understand a bit better....

1. i want to hot soak them and shrink them (with minimal dye loss)
2. throw them in the dryer
3. spray starch on the knees, etc.

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY I STILL WANT TO BE ABLE TO BREAK THEM IN after shrinking them (without ruining them), what is the best way to do this?

does anybody here ever made "how to soak you dry denim" thread or something like that?
coz i need to learn about it

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When I did my soaks I just filled up my tub with HOT water. I used some water from the faucet and also boiled some water and dumped it in the tub occasional to keep the water temp some what hot. It is kind of difficult to keep it hot the entire time. Anyways you can't really mess it up to much. Just put them in the tub for several hours and they will be fine. I have seen people say anything from 3 - 8 hrs. I did 3 - 5 hrs on my last 2 pairs and they were fine.

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When I soaked mine I just filled the tub with hot water and let them soak for 2 hours. Put some weights on them to keep them submerged the entire time. Not much more to it. I didn't worry about keeping the water warm throughout the soak. I got most of the shrinking out I would say as they shrunk the prescribed amount and fit awesome after. Also turned them inside out. My journal has all the info on the soak.

so the conclusion is..
1. get ready with your dry jeans (6 months usage or more)
2. fill your tub with hot water (40 degrees? or maybe 60?)
3. put the jeans in the tub (also put some weights on them to keep them submerged the entire time)
4. wait for 2-8 hours
5. take it out

CMIIW

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Well, it depends...

Usually with Japanese denim you would soak them before wear to get most of the shrinkage out of the way. If your first soak is after 6 months of wear, the creases, etc would move - you'll get a confusing fading effect afterwards.

Even if you have a pair that resists shrinking, e.g. the LVC 1967 505 or some of the Oni's with poly-cores, it's still a good idea to one wash or at least soak the jeans before wearing them.

Some people do indeed wait a long time before their jeans first touch the water - but it's both unhygienic and bad for the denim, and further, denim is not meant to be worn with the resin still coating the fabric. The guys who make Samurai would wash their jeans every month - it is better for the denim, and probably personal hygiene as well.

P.S. This is all personal opinion...

@ranchu
damn, really nice info
I thought there's no difference between japanese with the others

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Well, yes, denim is denim no matter where it is made. What I was trying to say is that most Japanese companies don't intend for their jeans to be worn 'dry', as in, with the chemical coating still on the fabric.

Whereas when the whole selvedge denim craze began in Western countries, a lot of people would wear brands like Nudie, etc 'dry', and defer the first soak.

I guess it's all a matter of opinion, I just find the "I'll never wash my jeans" thinking a tad weird. Imagine if a vintage shirt craze started, and everyone walked around in shirts that haven't been washed in months... A lot of Japanese denim nuts do that too, but that's beside the point.

P.S. Still...difference between Japanese & others, my opinion, = quality

P.P.S. The way I do it:
1. Hot soak at around 60 degrees C (a bit lower if natural indigo) for 1 hour
2. Change water, soak another 1 hour in same conditions
3. Repeat step two
4. Oil the leather patch
5. Dry in shade

For jeans that are a tad big, or heavily dyed, I chuck the jeans, inside out, after Step 1 into the washing machine. 60 to 70 degree C hand-wash cycle (or gentle wash). Proceed to Step 4 afterwards.

^this guy knows what's up...

you really should never need to soak for more than 2 hours, especially if you change the water halfway through. If you need more shrinkage than you get from a 2 hour hot soak just machine wash them on warm/hot and take them out before the spin cycle (as long as they are a well dyed pair of course)