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Old 08-18-2008, 09:24 AM
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Energy Drink May Raise Stroke RiskReuters

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NewsPrintShareText SizeAAACANBERRA (Aug. 15) - Just one can of the popular stimulant energy drink Red Bull can increase the risk of heart attack or stroke, even in young people, Australian medical researchers said on Friday.
The caffeine-loaded beverage, popular with university students and adrenaline sport fans to give them "wings," caused the blood to become sticky, a pre-cursor to cardiovascular problems such as stroke.

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"One hour after they drank Red Bull, (their blood systems) were no longer normal. They were abnormal like we would expect in a patient with cardiovascular disease," Scott Willoughby, lead researcher from the Cardiovascular Research Centre at the Royal Adelaide Hospital, told the Australian newspaper.
Red Bull Australia spokeswoman Linda Rychter said the report would be assessed by the company's head office in Austria.
"The study does not show effects which would go beyond that of drinking a cup of coffee. Therefore, the reported results were to be expected and lie within the normal physiological range," Rychter told Reuters.
Willoughby and his team tested the cardiovascular systems of 30 young adults one hour before and one hour after consuming one 250ml can of sugar-free Red Bull.
The results showed "normal people develop symptoms normally associated with cardiovascular disease" after consuming the drink, created in the 1980s by Austrian entrepreneur Dietrich Mateschitz based on a similar Thai energy drink.
Red Bull is banned in Norway, Uruguay and Denmark because of health risks listed on its cans, but the company last year sold 3.5 billion cans in 143 countries. One can contains 80 mg of caffeine, around the same as a normal cup of brewed coffee.
The Austria-based company, whose marketing says "Red Bull gives you wings," sponsors Formula 1 race cars and extreme sport events around the world, but warns consumers not to drink more than two cans a day.
Rychter said Red Bull could only have such global sales because health authorities across the world had concluded the drink was safe to consume.
But Willoughby said Red Bull could be deadly when combined with stress or high blood pressure, impairing proper blood vessel function and possibly lifting the risk of blood clotting.
"If you have any predisposition to cardiovascular disease, I'd think twice about drinking it," he said.
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Copyright 2008, Reuters
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Energy Drink May Raise Stroke Risk
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Old 08-18-2008, 09:28 AM
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Old 08-18-2008, 09:42 AM
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I believe it. I drank one once and I felt like I wasn't even in my body or something... I can't even describe it. I wrote something down, and my writing wasn't even my writing. I felt drunk, and it felt like my heart was beating out of my chest. Needless to say, I haven't had an energy drink since and don't plan to ever again.
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I've had the urge to try it just to see what the rave is all about but I was too scared something might happen.

Edit to Add: This reminds me of when took one of those Lipo Pills when I was trying to lose weight. I took the second dosage that day and began to shake and feel dizzy like I wanted to pass out. I had to roll the car window down just to get some fresh air to drive home. I woke up in the middle night and my heart was racing, I ended up going to the emergency room because I was so freaked out. Needless to say, I don't do diet pills anymore.
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:21 AM
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Do they link to the actual study or am I just not finding that?
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:34 AM
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Doesn't surprise me...I know someone who drank more than the recommended 1-2 every day and started having all sorts of stomach problems/puking up blood. The doctor determined it was red bull. I wonder if this warning applies to all energy drinks? It would be stupid for them to single out red bull if people are just going to switch to something equally bad.
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:38 AM
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That article gives like zero details on the study. What symptoms? ("sticky" blood? Do they mean increased clotting factors? Did it raise BP?) How are the participants 12h and 24h later?
Any difference to drinking coffee or tea? Is it due to the "sugar-free" ingredients or the caffeine dosage or the taurine? Does it matter if you regularly drink caffeinated drinks?

Red Bull makes me a bit jittery (the few times I drank the sickly-sweet drink), but so do bubble tea and coffee when I have abstained for a couple weeks.
It's not a stretch to believe that energy drinks are not good for you (especially in excess), but the article title is scarier than the article. Obviously if you have a heart condition, you should make sure that what you intake doesn't interfere with your medication..and I think I am already reaching to get this message from it.
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That's not surprising at all. That stuff should be banned everywhere.
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I can't find anything on this study (the actual journal article). You would think that Reuters would at least CITE the study that this is based on. This is one of my biggest pet peeves. We'll just follow up this sensationalist headline with vague conclusions and not give the reader the opportunity to actually see the hard data for themselves.

I'm not trying to say they are making this up or that energy drinks are good for you, they probably aren't. I just would like to be able to evaluate the actual study.
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LOL, it doesn't take a degree in rocket science to know that Red Bull and other drinks like it are bad for you. Seriously, people.
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Compound that with the addition of alcohol. I've only ever had a red bull & vodka once... I seriously thought I was going to DIE. My heart was beating so fast- never experienced anything like that before in my life. I was scared sh*tless.
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:30 AM
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i love red bull

i dont drink it every day tho.
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:35 AM
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lol my 1st thought was that pic of the GIGANTIC vodka and red bull
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That's not surprising at all. That stuff should be banned everywhere.
oh more of the government stepping in since people arent making the proper decisions for themselves.
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I love Red Bull too... I've never had any of those effects that other people have had though...It actually only gives me a few hours of energy, then I "crash" really bad and get really tired. I knew it was bad for you, but wow!
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oh more of the government stepping in since people arent making the proper decisions for themselves.
I'm not sure what you mean?

Public health policy is necessary. Most people don't have the awareness, capacity, or interest to make these decisions for themselves.
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I'm not sure what you mean?

Public health policy is necessary. Most people don't have the awareness, capacity, or interest to make these decisions for themselves.
Especially if they are relying on Red Bull to function in the real world!
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"The study does not show effects which would go beyond that of drinking a cup of coffee. Therefore, the reported results were to be expected and lie within the normal physiological range," Rychter told Reuters.
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I can't find anything on this study (the actual journal article). You would think that Reuters would at least CITE the study that this is based on. This is one of my biggest pet peeves. We'll just follow up this sensationalist headline with vague conclusions and not give the reader the opportunity to actually see the hard data for themselves.

I'm not trying to say they are making this up or that energy drinks are good for you, they probably aren't. I just would like to be able to evaluate the actual study.
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ETA - i doubt this thing was published anywhere. a search on the 'lead researcher' (note that they didn't refer to him as an "author") + energy drink or +red bull still leads to nothing but news sites.

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A study is just that, a study. Unless it's a flawless controlled experiment, the results will be subject to selection bias.

BTW, I get the same effects from drinking ONE cup of coffee, as I am not a habitual coffeee drinker.
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Well i will say that ui drank a bunch of energy drinks and the likes this weekend and i did get a kind of a rush and a euphoric feeling.

But red bull contains taurine which people do say gives you energy (something that coffee does not contain).

In addition it also contains B-vitamins that are said to give you energy and mental clarity.

But drinks like that really aren't that great for you. Want some energy...drink yerba matte, it gives you energy and is an anti-oxidant!
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