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Old 04-04-2008, 07:28 AM
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I want to do a cleanse... but I wanna eat! Advice?

My body has been feeling very blahhhhh lately and I think I want to do a cleanse. However, I am not one of those people who can do the Master Cleanse or anything that doesn't allow me to eat for a long period of time. I am OK with only eating one type of food though, or removing things from my diet for a week or two.

Does anyone have any recommendations?? I've heard about a cleanse where you eat only fruit... are there certain types of fruits that are more digestable than others? I also love veggies... can that be incorporated into the diet as well?

If anyone has any advice, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!
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Old 04-04-2008, 07:47 AM
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ok, Anna this is weird b/c I was just talking to my husband about this yesterday. I have been feeling so bloated lately and I want to do something. I did go to the gym the past few days and really worked out hard and then hit the sauna. I think that helped a bit.

I was also looking at the master cleanse, and it's just not for me. I love food too much, not to mention that it would be torture when I feed the kids.
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Old 04-04-2008, 08:05 AM
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You could try Dr. Fuhrman's 5 day cleanse. He is the author of the book Eat to Live.

Disease Proof: Dr. Fuhrman's Five-Day Super-Diet Challenge

I myself have never done this, but have heard/read positive things about it.
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Old 04-04-2008, 08:11 AM
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^^ That's what I just wanted to rec. Not as a cleanse (the body doesn't work like that anyway), but as a permanent change of diet.
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Old 04-04-2008, 08:51 AM
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ok, Anna this is weird b/c I was just talking to my husband about this yesterday. I have been feeling so bloated lately and I want to do something. I did go to the gym the past few days and really worked out hard and then hit the sauna. I think that helped a bit.
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I totally know what you mean! Every once in a while I get that "yick" feeling too. It's not a real cleanse but I will just stop eating all processed foods basically and eat nothing but vegetables, fruit, and this very light brothy homemade soup I came up with. I feel MUCH better after eating this way for a week or two straight and it defintiely curbs my appetite for sugar and other junk food since I eliminately it completely from my system. I refer to it as "resetting my tastebuds", lol.
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Old 04-04-2008, 10:25 AM
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I *totally* feel you right now, Anna- I actually went to Whole Foods yesterday to look at cleanse programs, but there were so many that I figured I better do some research first, so instead I bought some Yogi fasting tea which is supposed to help cleanse your system and support fasts (or I figured it could help support a partial cleanse of some sort). I've been totally bloated and chubby feeling the past 3 weeks, a combination of being stressed with work and going on vacation where I ate more than usual, and it's making me crazy What I've been trying is to drink a ton of tea (green or this yogi stuff) all day long, onion soup broth mid-day, and then fruit, salad, or soup for dinner, as well as trying to exercise as much as possible. I'm hoping it will work as a kind of cleanse because I'm really unhappy with my body right now booooooo. I will definitely look into Dr. Fuhrman's cleanse. Maybe we can like make a new official partial cleanse thread or something, cuz I need support- especially to cut out chocolate . oookay sorry for essay.
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Old 04-04-2008, 10:50 AM
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I *totally* feel you right now, Anna- I actually went to Whole Foods yesterday to look at cleanse programs, but there were so many that I figured I better do some research first, so instead I bought some Yogi fasting tea which is supposed to help cleanse your system and support fasts (or I figured it could help support a partial cleanse of some sort). I've been totally bloated and chubby feeling the past 3 weeks, a combination of being stressed with work and going on vacation where I ate more than usual, and it's making me crazy What I've been trying is to drink a ton of tea (green or this yogi stuff) all day long, onion soup broth mid-day, and then fruit, salad, or soup for dinner, as well as trying to exercise as much as possible. I'm hoping it will work as a kind of cleanse because I'm really unhappy with my body right now booooooo. I will definitely look into Dr. Fuhrman's cleanse. Maybe we can like make a new official partial cleanse thread or something, cuz I need support- especially to cut out chocolate . oookay sorry for essay.

Me too Alissa!! I ate nearly an entire box of Godiva chocolates in the course of maybe 5 days. There's probably like 16 or 18 different ones in a box.
They were SOOOOOOO good though. I have another box sitting there taunting me, but I am NOT going to even open it.
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UGGG I know, Meg- my best friend's friend owns a fudge company in NYC and she sent me a whole box of fudge (like 10 pieces) and I finally decided deal with it and brought them all in to give to my coworkers...I just need to do 2 weeks with no sugar and then I know the addiction will be gone (I've taken 3 months off before and felt great), it's just so freakin hard to get to that point
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Old 04-04-2008, 10:55 AM
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Thank you Tine and Jenn for the recommendation. I took a look at it and it is do-able

Alissa, great idea about the thread! With Spring coming up and stuff like that, I just don't want to feel/look like this when the weather starts getting nicer and the clothes start getting skimpier

I think I can do a fruit/veggie cleanse, and it won't be impossible for me to cut out sweets. My big problem is carbs though -- I love love love rice, pasta, bread, and noodles. All the unhealthy kinds too Whole grain? Yuck!
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I think I can do a fruit/veggie cleanse, and it won't be impossible for me to cut out sweets. My big problem is carbs though -- I love love love rice, pasta, bread, and noodles. All the unhealthy kinds too Whole grain? Yuck!
You can't have it both ways. Refined grains are junk food and are not much healthier than sugar. Have you tried different kinds of grains? Oatmeal is a whole grain and there are lots of tasty whole grain cereals (Kashi, Nature's Way or something like that). Some whole grain breads are better than others. I really like Dempster's prebiotic bread and it's filling, and super high fiber for bread (4 g per slice). Quinoa, couscous, and brown rice are all boring on their own, but they are great with stir fries, steamed veggies with light sauces, etc. I eat smaller amounts of the grains with more veggies so the focus is on the veggie taste. If you like potatoes, make sure to eat baked potatoes with the skin and/or eat sweet potatoes or yams instead.

I find that if I eat just veggies, I tend to get hungry soon after but this is not a problem if I include a lot of beans with my meals. Beans and grains go really well together too.
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quinoa is amazing- either cooked with vegetable broth and mushrooms and onions, or with tomato paste and water.
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Old 04-04-2008, 11:13 AM
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I find that if I eat just veggies, I tend to get hungry soon after but this is not a problem if I include a lot of beans with my meals. Beans and grains go really well together too.
And the good thing is that if you eat just veggies, you can eat as much as you want. So you can graze on veggies all day. Only problem is when you're out during the day. That takes some management and preparation. gg
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Old 04-04-2008, 11:15 AM
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I *totally* feel you right now, Anna- I actually went to Whole Foods yesterday to look at cleanse programs, but there were so many that I figured I better do some research first, so instead I bought some Yogi fasting tea which is supposed to help cleanse your system and support fasts (or I figured it could help support a partial cleanse of some sort).
That's a good idea to do some research first. You'll see that there is no reliable info to back up the idea of "cleansing" the body inside.
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Yeah- I figured. Dr. Fuhrman's natural cleanse seems more appealing, anyway- fruits, veggies, and grains/flax/other seeds, etc. That blended salad actually sounds really yummy
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Old 04-04-2008, 11:25 AM
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Don't forget to join the Eat-To-Live- yahoo group.
Vegan & Vegetarian Recipes, Articles, Health Resource and Vegan / Vegetarian Recipes and More for the Vegan Diet and Lifestyle are great sources for Eat-To-Live compatible recipes too.
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And the good thing is that if you eat just veggies, you can eat as much as you want. So you can graze on veggies all day. Only problem is when you're out during the day. That takes some management and preparation. gg
I do not limit veggies at all but I often pull 12 hour days with school, work, and the gym, and it's really hard to carry around that much stuff. And my jaw gets tired eating that much raw veggies, and cooked veggies don't taste as good cold.

I always thought it was dumb when magazines give snacks like 1/2 bell pepper and 1/4 hummus. Why not eat the whole bell pepper if you are cutting it up anyway?
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And the good thing is that if you eat just veggies, you can eat as much as you want. So you can graze on veggies all day. Only problem is when you're out during the day. That takes some management and preparation. gg
the interesting thing is that i find that the more i eat veggies, the more i like veggies. it is like an addiction...i just can't stop and actually need them.

i tried a cleanse once and was miserable for about two days before i just gave up on it. i am very regular and it was the one time i remember being actually constipated. ugh.

i have always thought that if you feel icky and bloated and your body is telling you "that is enough" - it is best not to shock the body in the other direction but to moderate your consumption and to be more thoughtful about what you are eating.

Dr. Fuhrman's natural cleanse sounds very appealing! although i worry about keeping my energy up on a diet like that....it just doesn't look like enough calories.
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I don't believe that you can cleanse the body unless you completely change the way you eat and stay eating in that manner. No meat, no alcohol, no processed foods, etc...really hard to do.

There is no scientific proof that any of the cleansing system out there actually work. Of course, you can blood dope like the cyclists. oops did I say that?
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My friend did a cleanse were she ate only veggies for a week, and then started incorporating proteins and carbs.
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I'm curious. What is it that you are cleansing? There are specific products for cleansing certain organs and what not. I don't believe they are that effective i.e. milk thistle for the liver. If someone has any cleansing for high cholesterol, let me know. I eat oatmeal everyday but still have elevated cholesterol. I don't eat much red meat anymore but I am still struggling to get off of cholesterol meds.

My resting HR now is 58 beat/min. My blood pressure is 110/78 (just taken) but I can't get my cholesterol level below 180 without meds.
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I don't believe that you can cleanse the body unless you completely change the way you eat and stay eating in that manner. No meat, no alcohol, no processed foods, etc...really hard to do.

There is no scientific proof that any of the cleansing system out there actually work.
ITA.
I believe that feeling like your body is "clean" is a psychological effect and/or mindset.
If you want to "cleanse" your body, you have to completely change your diet/lifestyle. Fresh food, variety, exercise, etc. Oh and adding a sauna to a weekly routine sounds nice
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I have started one of these "cleanses" too!!

I was talking to my new boy yesterday about it actually. He is a very healthy person and seeing as how he used to be a bodybuilder he is quite knowledgable on foods and the way our bodies work. And has he says "some things like veggies are all you can eat!"

So starting tomorrow I am essentially only eating lean protiens (chicken, turkey and some fish, and bison on occasion as a treat) fruits and veggies. I need to have protien in my diet seeing as how i weightlift and i must ensure that i have protein in order to help build muscle. But i have cut out red meat (besides the weekend bison) all grains including brown rice, and no sugars. But seeing as how I am a chocoholic I am allowed to have a spoonfull of this wonderful peanut butter after dinner...*drool*. I know that cutting out carbs won't be too bad since i hardly ever eat bread or pasta but i do like oatmeal and brown rice so that might be a challenge for me.

I just came back from wal-mart and i got a bunch of fruit and tomorrow i am going to costco to stock up on more fruits and veggies in bulk.

The best part about eating lots of veggies is that i can share them with my puppy as well. I usually give him the ends of the carrots i eat and he loves them. They are really good now that he is teething too.

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Has anyone used a juicer? I can tell you that it's a great tool. You can get a good one for about 100 bucks. Neat thing is, you use the entire vegie/fruit and get all the good stuff that's in the peel/seeds. You can put in broccoli and spinach with fruits and never even taste the vegies....the sweetness of the fruits overpower the vegies. It's a great shake for the morning...so much better for you than smoothie king!!!
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^^ Sure. That's very popular with Eat-To-Live (smoothies, that is, made with a blender).
I prefer eating the stuff whole though, my tummy doesn't recognize a smoothie as food.
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Me making an eating change too...I started a week ago. It's more of a lifestyle change though, or a return to my previous, healthier eating habits.
I've completely cut out refined sugar & flour and the first week felt like hell, but it's getting better.
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