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Old 02-18-2008, 12:42 PM
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Anyone try Hydroxycut Hardcore?

I recently tried this, and i dunno if its me or what? but I see a gain in weight of about 2 lbs, and whenver i workout i feel like barfing. so i stopped using it, i was fine before with my workout routines. just lookin for a product taht would help me shed the weight faster. i am 5'4 5'4 170 lbs
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Old 02-18-2008, 12:49 PM
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Just to reiterate though I'm sure you've heard plenty of times...all these does NOTHING if you don't combine it with a good workout regiment and most importantly, a healthy diet.
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:35 PM
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i did use it several years ago (like 10) not hardcore but the original version, i do think it can make you lose weight even if you dont diet cause it accelerates your metabolism as hell. Actually that is why i stopped using it, it gave me tachycardia and scared the s**** out of me, it would also make me sweat rivers by only going up a couple of stairs. I dont think that can possibly be good for your body so, if you do not have an obesity problems that can require prescription meds (like sibutramine) i would stick with healthy diet and exercise as Victor said. Patience and perseverance are the best way to lose weight IMO
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:38 PM
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Very dangerous product. If you diet and exercise regularly, you don't need shit like that. DH used to take that and it made him a real asshole.
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:59 PM
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yea i think my diet is pretty good, i consume less then 1500 calories a day, i goto the gym about 5 days a week, i warm up with 15 min on the elliptical to burn 220 calories, then i go lift weights for about 45 min, then cool down with anotehr 15 min session on the elliptical. is that a good routine?
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you actually may not be eating enough. if you work out like that but hardly eat, your metabolism will stall out bc your body thinks you're starving. i've actually found that I lose more weight after I've kinda fallen off the diet wagon (for like a day or so though, not long term)...for working out 5 days a week, unless you have the metabolism of a dead cow, you should probably be closer to 1800-2000 calories a day
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Old 02-18-2008, 02:14 PM
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you actually may not be eating enough. if you work out like that but hardly eat, your metabolism will stall out bc your body thinks you're starving. i've actually found that I lose more weight after I've kinda fallen off the diet wagon (for like a day or so though, not long term)...for working out 5 days a week, unless you have the metabolism of a dead cow, you should probably be closer to 1800-2000 calories a day
I agree. With that much workout and that little food your body will intentionally try to store fat, because it's being malnourished.

Also i would recommend doing the elliptical after lifting weights. The problem with doing it before is you waste all your good energy on the elliptical, and then your weight workout is hindered.
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Old 02-18-2008, 02:21 PM
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you actually may not be eating enough. if you work out like that but hardly eat, your metabolism will stall out bc your body thinks you're starving. i've actually found that I lose more weight after I've kinda fallen off the diet wagon (for like a day or so though, not long term)...for working out 5 days a week, unless you have the metabolism of a dead cow, you should probably be closer to 1800-2000 calories a day
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I agree. With that much workout and that little food your body will intentionally try to store fat, because it's being malnourished.

Also i would recommend doing the elliptical after lifting weights. The problem with doing it before is you waste all your good energy on the elliptical, and then your weight workout is hindered.
True. Our bodies have a starvation hormone that kicks in when the body doesn't get enough food.
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ahh ok gotcha
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Old 02-18-2008, 02:39 PM
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as long as you eat RIGHT, you shouldn't have to worry about calories...IF you are working out as much as you are.
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Old 02-18-2008, 02:53 PM
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True. Our bodies have a starvation hormone that kicks in when the body doesn't get enough food.
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Old 02-18-2008, 04:55 PM
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You might actually want to eat A LOT too. Just make sure you eat the right combination of nutrients. High protein, high COMPLEX carbs, low fat+cholesterol will help tremendously in gaining lean muscle mass, which in turn increases your resting metabolism. So you'll end up burning up more fat+gaining muscle. Win-win situation.
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Old 02-18-2008, 06:37 PM
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I exercise regularly and do eat somewhat healthy, but decided to try those pills to see if it could give me more progress. I puked on day 1 and day 3 and decided not to use it anymore.
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everyone is giving you great advice... I second the idea of doing your weights BEFORE cardio, you burn more fat that way. Try to eat protein with every small meal(eat like 6 small meals per day made up of protein + complex carb & throw in some fruit like berries). You need at least 100grams of protein a day imo, and keep your sugar grams to a minimum(read labels!). If you're eating the right kinds of foods then you shouldnt have to sit & count calories.
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:13 PM
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Is this the pill on TV?
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:28 PM
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yes, i remember one of those silly "as seen on tv" ads
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I don't think the "hardcore" version is on tv, tho
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You need at least 100grams of protein a day imo, and keep your sugar grams to a minimum(read labels!). If you're eating the right kinds of foods then you shouldnt have to sit & count calories.
People's protein needs depend on their body type and the activities they do. Bigger body mass = more protein. More active = more protein.

Actually...sugar isn't always bad. If you look at the serious body builders, they'll take in 70+ grams post workout easily. You need sugar post workout especially for the quick and immediate recovery of your glucose stores. It's the TYPE of sugar you eat and WHEN you take it as well.
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I don't think the "hardcore" version is on tv, tho
oh, no, i don't know about the hardcore either, i didn't even know there was such thing, i remember an older advertise
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Kind of OT, but I would recommend the TNT diet by Jeff Volek and Adam Campbell (Men's Health guys). It's a pretty good read and it makes a lot of interesting points.

It helps you to determine what to eat and when. Which is the direction who8mahrice is saying. (which is true)
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Old 02-19-2008, 03:46 PM
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sugar interferes with protein synthesis, so please do not think you can eat sugar post workout (like someone stated earlier) to replace depleted glycogen stores. You can eat fruit(fructose=good type sugar) of course, but just to say that sugar grams do not count is false. Even the good sugar is still carbohydrates & eating carbs at night will keep you from losing weight. The sugar grams listed on most item labels is typically referring to table sugar, of which there is no need of in the human body, it's junk.
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I guess I should clarify that when I said eating sugar post workout, I wasn't talking about eating a chocolate bar...more of something along the lines of dextrose. Sugar is needed post workout because your body is in a muscular catabolic state. An short insulin spike can help fight that. It also facilitates in getting creatine to your muscles.

Bodybuilding.com - Topic Of The Week - Is Sugar Bad For A Bodybuilder?
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I believe that if you spend more calories than what you eat you will lose weight, no matter if there are carbs or proteins or at what time you have them
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I agree with who8mahrice. Agnesf, your first line implies eating sugar won't help replace depleted glycogen stores...sugar is the only thing which will replace glycogen stores. But yes, eating crap sugar a lot is not good, and eating a lot right before sleeping is also not good.

CSRE, technically I agree with you. Your body is like a closed system, in = out and all that. However there are definitely many things one can do to enhance both sides of that equation [since there are TONS of variables on both sides] to lose weight/build muscle more efficiently.
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who8mahrice- cool link you posted! it has great info. And thanks for clarifying you didnt want us all to go eat Snickers after a workout.

But I dont mean to bombard the nice lady asking for advice on weight loss. We shouldnt have gotten off topic and got all technical on you. It's your thread and you wanted advice on exercise & weight loss. Keep it simple for now and just make a conscious effort to excercise 5 days/week(2-3 of those days do weights before your cardio). Other 2 days just do moderate intensity cardio for as long as you can stand(it's just calories out of your body). And watch your diet, that's the big key to weight loss! you can sabatoge all your hard work in the gym by eating poorly. So stick with those 5-6 small meals/day with proteins & complex carbs. Stay consistent and you will reach your goal. Think positively about yourself and how much better you feel, also give yourself one cheat meal per week to eat whatever you want!
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