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Old 12-16-2007, 05:16 PM
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blood sugar issues?

This is really strange. I've always had a hunch that I'm hypoglycemic, though I've never gotten it officially diagnosed. I simply eat frequently so that I don't get dizzy or loopy, "scary-hungry" as I call it.

But lately, I've noticed something weird. When I eat a lot of carbs or sugar, I start to feel sort of hyper and jittery, but in that sick, I Really Shouldn't Have Had That Double Espresso And Then Taken Excedrin For My Headache type of way. It's like this sudden rush of dizzy/jumpy feeling and sometimes I get a headache. I also get a really full, sort of bloated feeling in my stomach, even if I only had a few pieces of bread.

Typically I follow a vegan diet that's heavier on protein and "good" fats than on carbs, but it's by no means a low-carb diet...I just eat whole grains (brown rice, multigrain bread) instead of the fluffy stuff. I mean, that's what you're supposed to do, right? However, sometimes the food on set is more of the junk/simple carbs variety...and if I didn't bring any snacks from home and get hungry, that's what I end up eating. And it really f*cks me up. Same thing when I go home to my parents' house...when I try to settle into my snacking routine to prevent feeling all weak and shaky, the only thing around is usually crackers and cereal, stuff like that.

What is going on? Am I becoming insulin resistant or something? Or have I just gotten so used to avoiding foods like this, that I can no longer tolerate them? I guess that's not a horrible thing, it just sucks to feel like I can't even eat a plate of pasta without getting these weird symptoms. Has this happened to anyone else? I feel like it's gotten worse over the past few years. I just want to feel like my diet is a little more balanced out, since the whole vegan thing is enough to think about already (and not something I want to give up).
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Old 12-16-2007, 05:27 PM
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Do you have a family history of diabetes?

Some sypmtoms (although not too noticeable until the diabetes is more pronounced) are:

Frequent urination
Excessive thirst
Extreme hunger
Unusual weight loss
Increased fatigue
Irritability
Blurry vision

Another possibility is pre-diabetes, where insulin resistence is just starting; this can be reversed through diet control/adjustments.

Most likely, your body is not used to the more "simple" carbohydrates, so your body does go into a temporary hyPERglycemic state, making you jumpy, etc. The only way to know for sure what is going on is to take a glucose-tolerance test; any doctor (internist, general practitioner) can administer it. You drink a high-glucose solution and see how fast and easily your body metabolizes the glucose.

They usually have you fast before the test so they can get a "fasting" glucose level as well.

The test would ease your mind; I'm almost positive you're just not used to simple carbs. IMO, of course.
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Old 12-16-2007, 05:48 PM
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I went through sort of a checklist of these symptoms and tried to rule them all out. So let's see... I have suffered from irritability but I think it's unrelated, ha ha. I did go through this thing last year where I was peeing a lot, but I was also drinking an unchristly amount of coffee. And the only time I get blurry spots in my vision is when my contact lenses get dry or my eyes get really tired. I can tell because I don't get them at all when I wear my glasses. Sometimes I get really hungry and tired, but I suppose this happens when you're running around for 12 hours a day outside in the cold, occasionally carrying camera equipment. So I don't know about that either.

And I have lost a little weight in the past year but I think it has more to do with my level of physical activity and the fact that I'm not lifting really heavy stuff every day, like I used to at my old job, and I'm eating smaller meals more frequently. I'm also on medication which is known to suppress appetite. I try to take it at night to sorta fake myself out, since at my size, the last freakin thing I need is to stop eating!

If anything, the size, shape, and dietary habits I'm at now are actually more typical for me in general...as opposed to a year and a half ago or so, when I bulked up a little because I was eating five billion calories a day and carrying five billion pounds of gear (for 8 dollars an hour, nonetheless!). And oddly enough, the only article of clothing that changed size for me then, was my shirts, because my shoulders got broader...it was a strange time for my physique. I had many irrational fears that I was turning into a teenage boy. I think it was a level of activity that most people don't do, ever, and it really kinda threw me for a loop.

Anyway, I digress. Whatever demands I've been placing on my system as of late, are nothing new to me at this point, and not as severe as they have been in the past, so I feel like it's weird to have these symptoms suddenly happen now. I've pretty much always had the same build since I was a teenager, come to think of it. I'll grant you that in college I lived off of veggie burgers, PB&J, and those crappy Chewy granola bars, but why would such a sugar-happy diet catch up to me now, as opposed to affecting me then?

What about allergies? Does that seem like a possibility or is that kinda different? Or celiac disease, somehting like that...I don't have health insurance right now so I'm trying to put together as much of this as I can, by myself, before I go in to see someone about it.
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Old 12-16-2007, 05:52 PM
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I don't think you have celiac disease; you would have some pretty strong symptoms, one of which is diarrhea. It could be a sensitivity to starchy foods though; it's just so hard to pinpoint unless/until you eliminate things from your diet and see your reaction then.

It takes a vegetarian a while for his/her body to get used to meat after not eating it for years...the body does adjust, but sometimes slowly. Hmmmm, interesting.
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Old 12-16-2007, 06:21 PM
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hm...

Well, I think I'll just start with the obvious...stay away from the food that makes me feel this way and see if I feel better, which I probably will. It's not like eating tons of bread and sugar is good for anyone anyway. It's just weird being skinny but still taking a stance on what you put in your body...I mean it gets awkward with other people...because they seem to think that I can eat ANYTHING since I'm skinny. So then I'm reluctant to say things like, "I can't eat simple carbs or sugar" because I don't want it to sound like I have other issues, if you get my drift. I just feel like, ok, I stopped eating dairy because it made my stomach feel like shit...I became a vegan because I do not like the idea of eating animal products...it shouldn't be such a bad thing that I'm cutting back on simple carbs and sugar because they make me sick. The only thing I worry about is making my symptoms worse by avoiding these things. That's where I get kinda stuck.

I mean, I think I need to give myself a break and realize that it's better to be healthy and symptom-free, than to continue to eat this stuff just because I think I should be able to or because I'm afraid people will call the food police on me if I avoid it. I don't know if that makes sense, it's hard to explain without sounding like I'm being really picky (and I AM a very particular/fickle person!). It's just that I've had anxiety/depression issues, shitty PMS issues, just problems, in my life, that I KNOW are linked in part to poor diet. So part of why I took a stance on this vegan stuff and trying to eat better, was to finally try to fix these things in the long run instead of just convincing myself that I am fundamentally flawed as a person if I can't eat junk food without feeling sick. (What kind of an American AM I?! :P)
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Old 12-16-2007, 06:37 PM
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How about just go to the MD and get a blood work up?

Maybe even just a Blood sugar test?

sheesh, cliff notes?

BTW, my DH has Type 1 diabetes...I DO know a LITTLE about it...
Yes, I mean type 1...injection insulin...
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:36 PM
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How about just go to the MD and get a blood work up?

Maybe even just a Blood sugar test?

sheesh, cliff notes?

BTW, my DH has Type 1 diabetes...I DO know a LITTLE about it...
Yes, I mean type 1...injection insulin...
That's kinda what I was suggesting.

It's too hard to figure out what's going on just through words; blood tests clear all that up.

I had gestational diabetes, and I realized after I was diagnosed that I felt like crap after eating something carb-heavy. Just go to a doctor.

Joan, diabetes sucks.
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Old 12-16-2007, 08:31 PM
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It doesn't sound like diabetes to me (I'm a type 1 diabetic). If anything it sounds like it may be hypoglycemia... in which case, sugary junk food is the worst thing to eat when your blood sugar is low. As suggested above, go to a doctor to get checked out.
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Old 12-16-2007, 10:26 PM
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I have postprandial hypoglycemia, and i cannot eat heavy carbs in the morning especially, or i will bottom out halfway through the morning and feel like crap or even pass out
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Old 12-16-2007, 10:57 PM
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I have insulin resistance and i suffer from all of the symptoms dojoqueen listed. I take medication to keep my sugar levels ok and i feel way worse than what you describe if i forget or avoid it during a meal. I also get euphoric with sugar, my DH always jokes that if you want to see my happy you must feed me a candy floss , of course happiness will go away in a while and a terrible hang over will come instead.

Anyway, this can be a pretty serious/ dangerous thing so i agree that you should see a doctor asap
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Old 12-17-2007, 12:43 AM
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you might be sensitive to sugar. There's a great book on this, "Potatoes not Prozac" . At first it sounds like a diet book, but it's not really that. It explains a lot and helps to understand what might be happening in your body.
I agree on seeing a doc, too, in any case.
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I have postprandial hypoglycemia, and i cannot eat heavy carbs in the morning especially, or i will bottom out halfway through the morning and feel like crap or even pass out
Yep. This is exactly what happens to one who has hypoglycemia WITHOUT diabetes or insulin resistance. Since, for whatever reason the pancreas is producing more insulin than normal, high carbs and sugary foods will raise one's blood sugar... and it will shoot down quickly causing one to bottom out as Pam is describing.

With hypERglycemia (high blood sugar or diabetes), one doesn't usually feel how you're describing-- "jumpy sudden rush of dizzy/jumpy feeling" and sometimes a headache. I know I never feel that way when my blood sugar is high. What you're describing are symptoms of hypOglycemia (low blood sugar). If it's hypoglycemia, one should eat something with a little protein as well, like peanut butter crackers or something. Anyway... yeah, go to your doctor.
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:22 AM
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^ I was diagnosed with slight hypoglycemia in college. I was referred to a nutritionist. One of the things she said was to have meals with a good balance of carbs and proteins. The carbs are processed more quickly followed by the proteins which serve to keep the blood sugar at an even keel. I would suggest seeing you doctor who may be able to refer you to a nutritionist who can give you ideas on what to eat.
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Old 12-17-2007, 11:04 AM
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Well I definitely need to do something before it becomes a total mess. On set these past few days, I ate a lot more bread/carb products than usual and not only am I bloated and somewhat ah, blocked up, but I just feel like total shit, totally dragging with no energy. I am home now resting and eating brown rice and vegetables and drinking unchristly amounts of water. I feel like every goddamn thing I eat makes me miserable in some way. It really sucks. The worst thing in the world is when there's nothing around that's good to eat, so then I DON'T eat, and then I start to get dizzy and I fuck things up and space out.

I will check out that book too. I'm starting to realize how long I've simply put up with this, and I shouldn't have to anymore.
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Annie -

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It's just that I've had anxiety/depression issues, shitty PMS issues, just problems
I think you need to talk to your GP, Have you ever had a thryoid work up?
Read up about insulin resistance & PCOS.

You have some underlying issue that is causing your symptoms. make sure you write down all your symptoms & ask about a referral to an endocrinologist if there is any hint of endocrine issues.

good luck!
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Actually yeah, when I was 14 they checked my thyroid but did not come up with anything. Most of the time I try to just ignore all this stuff and accept it as my natural quirks, but I'm getting kinda worried/fed up.
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I have postprandial hypoglycemia, and i cannot eat heavy carbs in the morning especially, or i will bottom out halfway through the morning and feel like crap or even pass out
this is what I have as well. An egg, nuts, or even cheese and fruit works for me in the a.m.
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