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Old 05-02-2007, 04:40 PM
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Hi All,

Looking for opinions on the South Beach Diet. Well, they say it's really a 'lifestyle' NOT a diet, but whatever.

Here's my problem: I went through life with a hummingbird like metabolism; couldn't ever eat enough to gain any weight. Never had an ass, was always under 110 pounds. At one point I went through a depression and got down to like 92 pounds (yuck). I looked awful.

I was never very active, but in my late twenties, and early thirties, I started getting into climbing, etc., and muscled up. I got up to around 118, and I really looked healthy, and slim.

Now I'm up to around 137-140 (depending on when I weigh) and I'm MISERABLE!!! I cry regularly in fitting rooms because the clothes I like to wear look horrible on me. My boyfriend is losing patience with me and I'm losing patience with myself.

Obviously, being past my 'mid-thirties' hasn't done me any favours, and I really need to change something to get back to at least 120-125.

So...all that to say this: has anyone tried south beach? What are ya'lls thoughts on it?

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Old 05-03-2007, 12:40 AM
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I'd look into (google it) into Dr. Fuhrman and John Robbins. You'll get info on why the South Beach Diet isn't a good idea too. Basically all new research on nutrition points in the same direction. If you read a little by John Robbins,you find the newest info (last book is called "Healthy at 100"). You'll loose pretty fast if you stick to the recs of cutting out processed food, sugar, caffeine and added oil.
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What I've read about south beach, which, admittedly isn't much, that's what it is: cutting processed foods, sugar, bad fat, etc. I'll look up the folks you recommended. Thanks for the response! :-)
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What I've read about south beach, which, admittedly isn't much, that's what it is: cutting processed foods, sugar, bad fat, etc. I'll look up the folks you recommended. Thanks for the response! :-)
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You're welcome. Please let me know what you think! And good luck- you'll loose weight in no time, I bet. I need to loose some, too, but right now I'm having such a hard time that I can't stop eating sweets.
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I'd look into (google it) into Dr. Fuhrman and John Robbins. You'll get info on why the South Beach Diet isn't a good idea too. Basically all new research on nutrition points in the same direction. If you read a little by John Robbins,you find the newest info (last book is called "Healthy at 100"). You'll loose pretty fast if you stick to the recs of cutting out processed food, sugar, caffeine and added oil.
Jenn- I just checked out John Robbins' website- it's pretty rad!! I love how he seems very socially/politically conscious and embeds that into his dietary recommendations. I get so sick of all those diet books that seem so "me me me" instead of taking a more holistic perspective on diet/health/living well. Anyway, just wanted to thank you for the good suggestion
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Old 05-03-2007, 10:52 PM
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Jenn- I just checked out John Robbins' website- it's pretty rad!! I love how he seems very socially/politically conscious and embeds that into his dietary recommendations. I get so sick of all those diet books that seem so "me me me" instead of taking a more holistic perspective on diet/health/living well. Anyway, just wanted to thank you for the good suggestion
He's a great guy- glad you like him! His "Healthy at 100" makes a very interesting read.
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i cant stop eating sweets either

i think i crave because my blood sugar always feels like it's low
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i cant stop eating sweets either

i think i crave because my blood sugar always feels like it's low
There's another book (forgot the author, but you find it searching for the title) that explains this, it's called "Breaking the food seduction". Your sugar levels go up and down because you don't keep them consistent.
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i have an addictive personality
thats my problem... i have to have sugar loaded coffee first thing in the morning.. then i feel myself crashing thru out the day... and then i "think" i need more. it's a horrible cycle

i need to wean myself.... i'd probabley feel soooo much better if i didnt consume as much sugar as i did..
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i have an addictive personality
thats my problem... i have to have sugar loaded coffee first thing in the morning.. then i feel myself crashing thru out the day... and then i "think" i need more. it's a horrible cycle

i need to wean myself.... i'd probabley feel soooo much better if i didnt consume as much sugar as i did..
Definitely read "Potatoes not Prozac" if sugar sensitive, in addition to "Breaking the Fodd Seduction". It doesn't help to ponder on this, better read how it works and what to do.
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i have an addictive personality
thats my problem... i have to have sugar loaded coffee first thing in the morning.. then i feel myself crashing thru out the day... and then i "think" i need more. it's a horrible cycle

i need to wean myself.... i'd probabley feel soooo much better if i didnt consume as much sugar as i did..
I am sooo the same way, which is why I started a thread here on sugar ban! I haven't had candy/desserts/sugary stuff (minus three bites of cake) in about 2 weeks now, and I finally feel unaddicted! It's pretty amazing what your body can forget, actually (I guess it's just adapting to new conditions). But I have wayyy more energy...give it a try!
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Ok, I started South Beach, (against Jenn's recommendation) and I'm doing well. I'm only on day three of phase one. I have been eating 3 complete meals and two snacks a day. No sugar, processed foods, and very low carbs (for the first two weeks).
The first phase, which lasts two weeks, is supposed to help you break your addictions to the bad stuff. I'm suffering most from lack of sodas. I'm a dr pepper addict; it's ALL I drink. I also didn't realize how much of a sugar addict I was until I had a 'diet' fudgesicle tonight and it almost made me cry, it tasted so good! :-D
I'll update, if anyone is interested.
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Ok, I started South Beach, (against Jenn's recommendation) and I'm doing well. I'm only on day three of phase one. I have been eating 3 complete meals and two snacks a day. No sugar, processed foods, and very low carbs (for the first two weeks).
The first phase, which lasts two weeks, is supposed to help you break your addictions to the bad stuff. I'm suffering most from lack of sodas. I'm a dr pepper addict; it's ALL I drink. I also didn't realize how much of a sugar addict I was until I had a 'diet' fudgesicle tonight and it almost made me cry, it tasted so good! :-D
I'll update, if anyone is interested.
-Penny
Girl, South Beach is better than what you ate before, I'm sure.
I'd still advise you to base your diet on antioxidants etc (veggies and fruits) in the future. Try to get some recent literature on nutrition from your library, or google some names like those I gave to read up online.
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I ate so poorly before, that this is a real shock to my system. I mean, I drank ZERO water, just soda. HAD to have desert after dinner and snacked on sweets throughout the day.
After phase one, (in a week and a half) I get to add fruits (and some 'good carbs') back in. Phase one is mainly meats, like chicken and fish, and vegetables, and low fat cheeses. It's all stuff that's pretty good for you.
I want a soda so bad I can't stand it right now! Someone talk me off of the ledge!!!
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I ate so poorly before, that this is a real shock to my system. I mean, I drank ZERO water, just soda. HAD to have desert after dinner and snacked on sweets throughout the day.
After phase one, (in a week and a half) I get to add fruits (and some 'good carbs') back in. Phase one is mainly meats, like chicken and fish, and vegetables, and low fat cheeses. It's all stuff that's pretty good for you.
I want a soda so bad I can't stand it right now! Someone talk me off of the ledge!!!
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Ya, that's exactly what's not so good for you.It should be mainly veggies and fruits.
To beat the soda craving, try to eat an apple.
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Can't have an apple for another week and a half. :-(
Basically, the first two weeks is just meant to teach your body not to crave the bad stuff.
Phase one (the first two weeks) is the only time I can't have fruit and other simple sugars and carbs. After that, I add fruit and good carbs back into my diet.
So basically, the main thing you see wrong with the diet is that I can't have fruit for two weeks? Other than that, it's all food that's good for me! :-) I'll give up fruit for two weeks if it means I learn to eat better in the long run...
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I do appreciate you keeping up with me on this though, I really do! :-)
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The South Beach Diet really is amazing- I lost 40lbs on it after my 3rd baby... it basically teaches your body to not want the bad carbs!
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Can't have an apple for another week and a half. :-(
Basically, the first two weeks is just meant to teach your body not to crave the bad stuff.
Phase one (the first two weeks) is the only time I can't have fruit and other simple sugars and carbs. After that, I add fruit and good carbs back into my diet.
So basically, the main thing you see wrong with the diet is that I can't have fruit for two weeks? Other than that, it's all food that's good for me! :-) I'll give up fruit for two weeks if it means I learn to eat better in the long run...
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I do appreciate you keeping up with me on this though, I really do! :-)
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No, what I see wrong with the diet is that it lacks essential antioxidants etc etc because you're not getting enough fruit and veggies. The South Beach Diet is just not up to date with what is known today about nutrition. If you compare it to the six week plan from Fuhrman for example.
jimsslut: cutting out junk, sugar etc is a good idea. There are just better ways to eat healthy today and lose weight than with some outdated but popular concepts. I'm not saying you won't lose weight, I'm saying there are even better ways to eat out there. And why not benefit from the recent years of research on this?
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But you do get both fruit and veggies with this diet. You don't get fruit for two weeks, then you can have all the fruit you want. From day one, veggies are unlimited; you can have as much as you like.
I think you might be confusing the South Beach Diet with the Atkins diet.
Not trying to be argumentative, just not sure what the shortcomings are of the diet, other than no fruit for two weeks?
Other than that, you get to eat food that is good for you, and have to stop eating food that is bad for you... You never have to cut veggies, and you only have to cut fruit for 2 weeks.
I know there are tons of different ways to diet, but since I never had to diet before, I needed a very well defined plan. Most other diets almost require you to become a dietician and understand the chemical properties of everything you eat, or, worse, to measure all your food. South Beach diet is all about food that is good for you, in moderation.
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Ahhh...just read what Fuhrman says about South Beach. Makes sense. Since I don't have a ton of weight to lose, I think it'll be ok for me, but I can see how it could create a 'yo yo' effect for people who need to be on it long term.
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Sorry for the multiple posts...

I have read about the two docs you posted, Jenn. They both have very interesting things to say. The one thing that all three doctors agree on is that processed foods, sugars, etc, are bad for you. I'm using the South Beach Diet as a way to (hopefully) break my addiction to sodas, sweets, etc.

I expect to lose a bunch of weight in the first two weeks, gain some of it back and then lose more gradually.

I started the diet Monday at 139.8. This morning I was at 137.6. I would like to end up at 117. I intend to do it gradually, this first phase is just meant to help me learn a new way to eat, without sugar, sodas, candy, and excessive carbs.

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Sorry for the multiple posts...

I have read about the two docs you posted, Jenn. They both have very interesting things to say. The one thing that all three doctors agree on is that processed foods, sugars, etc, are bad for you. I'm using the South Beach Diet as a way to (hopefully) break my addiction to sodas, sweets, etc.

I expect to lose a bunch of weight in the first two weeks, gain some of it back and then lose more gradually.

I started the diet Monday at 139.8. This morning I was at 137.6. I would like to end up at 117. I intend to do it gradually, this first phase is just meant to help me learn a new way to eat, without sugar, sodas, candy, and excessive carbs.

-P
That's true, and I think it's great that you want to change your diet. Keep in mind though that you have to stay on it indefinitely, or you'll gain again. You can't go back to sweets and sodas, or you'll back to your old ways and will become addicted to them again. I bet with some effort you'll manage to keep eating much better than you did. Just eat much much more veggies than recommended on the South Beach Diet. Your skin and hair will change, too, it's amazing. You go girl!
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Day six. I'm not supposed to, but I've been weighing myself daily. This morning I was at 134. That's five down so far.
I expect to gain a pound or two back after phase one, and eventually would like to lose around 23 pounds total, to achieve a weight of 117. I feel I looked my best around 115-120. :-)
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I did South Beach, and I loved it. I lost 10 lbs in the first two weeks and a total of 15 before I went on vacation and started eating like a pig again. I plan to get back on it. It is a lifestyle, and I like that I can still have the things I had before, just modified a little (wheat/multigrain bread instead of white, and so forth). I was thinking that I was gonna miss potatoes, but I don't. The only thing I miss is chocolate. But I even found a dark chocolate bar in the diet section of Wal-Mart called Cocoa Via. It's AWESOME and it's good for you. It's even low in carbs!! Anyway, I really want to start South Beach again so I can drop the lbs I've put back on since getting off of it. Good luck to you!! And wish me luck starting again!! Keep us updated, I want to know how it works for you.
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Kind of OT, but I just found out the other day that the daily recommended # of servings of fruits and veggies went from 5 per day to 9!! I had no idea. I'll be eating fruits and veggies all damn day!!! That gets expensive!!
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