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Old 05-19-2009, 09:19 AM
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So...my weight has been slowly climbing since Christmas which is when worksouts have gone down as well as my giving a damn about what I eat. Now that Easter chocolate is no where to be seen I'm changing my ways and trying to loose the 10 pounds I gained.

I've decided to water fast for at least a day but maybe more if I can. I'd like to clear out the toxins in my body and shrink my stomach a bit since I have been over eating at big meals and find it difficult to eat every couple hours which is I know is the recommended way to eat now! I'm on 14 hours now but most of that was sleep time and with lunch creeping up I'm starting to get hungry

Has anyone ever fasted before? It kind of sounds scary and unhealthy and I'm just wondering if it is safe and when is a good time to stop. Also...since you aren't taking in calories I was wondering if it was okay to exercise while fasting

This is the website I've been reading and it talks about days of fasting like it's so simple

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Old 05-19-2009, 09:25 AM
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Why not go back to regular exercise and eating smaller portions? Don't you want your weight loss to be permanent? Think about it... you spent x number of months gaining it, and it will probably take x number of months to lose it.

I'm sorry I'm not much help, but I am very anti-crash-dieting. They just don't work
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I agree. Fasting isn't really meant as a weight loss tactic. Anything that you lose will be water weight and will not be permanent.

You are better off doing something like Weight Watchers or Nutrisystem, or using Sparkpeople.com to track your calorie intake. On Sparkpeople.com (free service), you can put in your weight loss goals and it will calculate how many calories you need to eat per day to achieve your goal. You can also track exercise there. It's a great tool!
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Oh I'm not fasting to loose weight! I'm just doing it as a cleanse! I spoke with a nurtionalist who said a cleanse once a month is good as it allows your body to get rid of all the toxins etc...

I'd like to be able to eat smaller portions and I read that fasting for a even little bit shrinks your stomach so you can actually feel full after eating a banana or something. Right now I can just keep eating I don't even feel full.

I don't really want to be a calorie counter either. Just eat healtier and smaller portions throughout the day

Sorry if I sounded like I was trying a mini-anorexia diet. That is not at all what Ia am doing.
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has this whole cleansing the body of "toxins" theory been proven to be valid in...

1) are there even "toxins" hanging in the body that can be "cleansed" out?
2) do these cleanses remove these toxins?

I'm asking because I really have no idea.
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when you dont eat so you can 'cleanse' your body, your metabolism slows down. you will be even bigger in the end.
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Again, fasting isn't really good as a 'cleanse' either. The only real benefits to fasting are spiritual benefits.

If you want to do a 'cleanse' then you should go to Whole Foods, GNC, etc. and get some of their cleansing products. Or, you could do the raw diet. But, it truly is for cleansing and not weight loss, as the weight loss will not be permanent.
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Again, fasting isn't really good as a 'cleanse' either. The only real benefits to fasting are spiritual benefits.
That's not really true. You must remember that these types of activities that have been practiced by older religions for thousands of years generally are rooted in practical benefits. Currently, it is known to western medicine that caloric restriction has a known benefit in increasing maximal lifespan. There is also some evidence of a beneficial effect on disease risk.

edit: I would argue that the benefits of fasting, which are known, supersede the vague and unproven claims (as far as i know) made by the companies that market their "cleanses" to North Americans.

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I agree with Kelly...what if instead of totally fasting you just ate really clean for a few days? Like just fruits and veggies & a few carbs in there for energy. I know when I am feeling very sluggish & yucky about my diet (not weightloss diet, just eating in general) If I am really conscious for a couple days and just focus on eating fruits, veggies, chicken and a few carbs, & LOTS of water, I feel SOOOOO much better. For me it helps me restart my attitude towards eating & taking care of myself. Just a thought. I am feeling the same as you right now I need to "restart" myself Good luck!
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One of the tips to doing a fast is to eat raw the day before to "prepare" your body. Thanks for all the advice and opinions. I hadn't read anything bad about it which is the only reason I decided to try it. I too was and still am a bit skeptical as I was always told that "starving" your body was bad because once you eat again your body turns everything into fat because it switches to survivor mode or something

I've been going 19 hours now and my stomach hasn't even growled once....24 hours if you don't include the massive late lunch I ate yesterday. I'm feeling pretty good and have already planned my first "new start" mini meal. Fresh Streamed Brocoli and Grilled Chicken
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I'm currently doing a two day fast. I have done it once before, and "lost" 10 pounds (water weight). It does help with bloating. But, if you don't eat healthy after doing the fast, it will all come right back.
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I'm currently doing a two day fast. I have done it once before, and "lost" 10 pounds (water weight). It does help with bloating. But, if you don't eat healthy after doing the fast, it will all come right back.
Thank You!!!! This is what I was hoping for. My bloating is what sparked this as I have been having people ask if I was pregnant from my crazy bloating!
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That's not really true. You must remember that these types of activities that have been practiced by older religions for thousands of years generally are rooted in practical benefits. Currently, it is known to western medicine that caloric restriction has a known benefit in increasing maximal lifespan. There is also some evidence of a beneficial effect on disease risk.

edit: I would argue that the benefits of fasting, which are known, supersede the vague and unproven claims (as far as i know) made by the companies that market their "cleanses" to North Americans.
This is all true.

The important thing is to eat healthily when you do eat. For me, fasting makes my appetite change more towards healthy, lighter foods.
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Why not go back to regular exercise and eating smaller portions? Don't you want your weight loss to be permanent? Think about it... you spent x number of months gaining it, and it will probably take x number of months to lose it.

I'm sorry I'm not much help, but I am very anti-crash-dieting. They just don't work


I would never advise fasting. It's just wrong and those websites promoting it are full of awful BS.
For toxins? We have the liver and fasting (with or without food/liquids) does not do a better job at detox than the liver. Trust me.
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For me, fasting makes my appetite change more towards healthy, lighter foods.
Like chocolate shakes?

I have fasted regularly over the years, usually not for more than 48 hours. I do not do it for weight loss or cleansing reasons. My experience is that a fast shorter than 3 days will increase my appetite when I do break the fast.

I fasted for a month one time during college and...it didn't end well!

Make sure that you aren't falling into all/nothing thinking...like "oops, ate a cookie, might as well give up on the day" or "don't have time to do an hour workout, so it's not worth it to even get in 10 minutes". That has been the biggest mental challenge for me to overcome from my eating disorder days, but now if I don't make the best dietary choice, I make a point of sticking to my plan for the rest of the day anyway.
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Oh, I misunderstood fasting; I didn't know people meant for days without a break! I've heard of dawn to dusk fasting, then eating...pretend I didn't promote fasting for 48+ hours.
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Well I did my 24 hour fast and feel great. I read this afterward and thought about it:

On the other hand, if you are thinking about or working on eating less, exercising more, and are focused on improving your overall weight, diet, and health - water fasting can be a wonderful part of making some great changes (check out these weight loss tips if you want to learn more about dieting). If you practice water fasting once a week, once a month, or a few times a year it can help as one element of adopting a health minded lifestyle. Every time you go through a day of water fasting you learn about how you think about eating, how different situations trigger your desire to eat, and how you react to hunger. Many people know they don't always eat because they are hungry. Yet we often don't pay attention to why or how we overeat. Fasting reveals, often quite starkly, many thoughts and reactions we have about food and eating. It can also build our self restraint "I'm not going to eat" muscles. In sum, regularly practicing water fasting can provide you with useful knowledge and practical experience with denying overindulging in eating.

It's so weird. There were times I was about to nibble on the lunch I was making the kids and tempted to gobble some of their leftovers. It's like a bad habit that I didn't know I even had!!!! I aso realized it isn't the SIGHT of food that reels me in but the smell! Mmm...unless of course it's sweets like cookies or chocolate. I went to the grocery store and I could not get my eyes of the cookie my son got from cookie club <---this was me

Anyway. I found it went well and now I have no or less desire to munch on a bag of chips. After grocery shopping I premade a bunch of healthy meals for when I need something when I'm in a pinch for dinner where I normally would hit the fast food joints. I hate prep work so I cut all the veggies and fruit I bought so it's ready on hand.

I know a lot of people discouraged fasting but for me it seemed to work because even if it doesn't cleanse me it seemed to have cleansed my mind a bit and how I think of food
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Oh, I misunderstood fasting; I didn't know people meant for days without a break! I've heard of dawn to dusk fasting, then eating...pretend I didn't promote fasting for 48+ hours.
My best friend fasted for a week for religious reasons/social justice solidarity reasons. Just water for a week.
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Fasting is not really the greatest option, when your body is not receiving the right amount of protein it goes into survival mode and really holds onto all the fat it can which makes it extremely hard to get rid of.
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Fasting is not really the greatest option, when your body is not receiving the right amount of food (especially carbs, it's the preferred form of energy) it goes into survival mode and really holds onto all the fat it can which makes it extremely hard to get rid of.
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Thats right. Try to exercise regularly and drink a lot of water.
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I have read a lot of articles about the benefits of fasting. I fast usually once a month (a one day water only fast) and I feel as though it is helpful for me. I know there are a lot of people who think otherwise, but for me it works . And if I start eating uncontrollably, as is my nature to do, a one-day fast usually helps to get me back into the right habits.

How do you feel now that your fast is over? Any different?
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Tons!! I feel better and although I think a lot of it is physcological..I feel "cleaned" out from the chips, coookies and junk I had eaten in the past

I felt better...and believe it or not...more engergized after. I'm now easily eating smaller portions when I was over eating before. I can now easily convince myself to stop eating too much now that I am paying attention.

I can see myself doing it once a month as well
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I skipped this month...I couldn't go without my coffee on the date I had planned on! Maybe next week !
Glad it worked for you .
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