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Old 05-28-2007, 04:01 PM
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NEW Citizens of Humanity AUTHENTICITY GUIDE!

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As quite a few of you know, Citizens of Humanity isn't the easiest to decipher when it comes to telling the real thing amidst the fakes. So, where do you start?

First things first: when it comes to Ebay, there are a few things you should avoid...
1) Sellers with stock photos from Revolve Clothing or any other reputable site with no photos of their actual item.
2) Sellers with very poor feedback, especially feedback that accuses the seller of selling fake goods or having poor customer service.
3) Sellers that don't respond to your requests for more photos of the item or any question at all.

Now that that's out of the way, please realize that GOOD feedback doesn't mean much either. A seller may have 100% feedback, yet still be selling fake items.

With COH, things like wash quality, overall stitching and shape of the "H" are extremely important. If these are anything but immaculate, chances are good that you've got a fake.

Wash
When determining authenticity, first look at the wash. Is it pretty? Does it look even-- not streaky and grainy? Is the whiskering even and does it blend well? Some authentic washes do contain mild to extreme streaking, but never to the heinous extent of a fake. Also, it's not the poor photo quality that makes a pair look fake, so do not make that excuse when shopping for a pair of COH online. Now, for the examples!

This pair is one of the most faked pair of COH out there... Kelly in North Pacific. There are even several versions of this fake, ranging from horrible to just plain laughable.

The AUTHENTIC pair...



And now for the fake...



This wash is a fairly saturated one aside from the fading, but the difference between the two pairs is visible. The whiskering on the fake just isn't quite right, and the wash doesn't look nearly as nice.

Here's another example... AUTHENTIC Ingrids in Porto Velho.



And now for the fake. Are ya ready?




The fake looks NOTHING like the original! The only proof we have that those are supposed to be Porto Velho is the style number.

Last examples...

Kate in Dark Cordoba and Ingrid in Bolinas.

AUTHENTIC


Fake


The wash doesn't even compare... the whiskering looks like someone smeared it on with their fingers.

Ingrid in Bolinas

AUTHENTIC




FAKE




Ingrids in Bolinas are very highly faked. The fake has a somewhat decent "H," but everything else is completely wrong. The fake has a nasty, grainy wash and the typical Bolinas distressing is not even close.

The "H"
The shape and placement of the H on the back pocket of authentic COH is just as important as the wash. You can even tell what cut a particular pair is based on the H!

An authentic H is always nice and full and is in good proportion with the rest of the pocket.



Older pairs have a fuller H.



Newer pairs have a slightly narrower H.




If there is a little label on the RIGHT pocket, the tail of the H will always be below said label. Some newer Kellys and Ingrids do not have this tag. Fayes never have this label.

FAKE H’s are never correct. The fakers may have caught on to placing the tail below the H label, but you can see that there are other things that make them fake.












Stitching
Authentic COH almost always has meticulous stitching. Everywhere from the labels to the stitching surrounding the zipper are perfectly stitched.

Here’s what the stitching will look like on an authentic pair:



They will NEVER look like these fakes:



I repeat, an authentic pair will NEVER look like that. Ever.


Like I mentioned above, the stitching around the zipper plays an important part in authenticity. The bottom ALWAYS comes to a point.

AUTHENTIC



It will NEVER be curved like this fake pair:




Outside and inside labels

COH can be found with different colors on the outer and inner labels.

Red


Navy/Black


Faded blue


Orange


COLOR is not an authenticity indicator.


Common Authenticity Confusion

The classic "H" and COBRAX ORIGINAL

**This is important. Authentic COH will have either an "H":



or COBRAX ORIGINAL on the backs of buttons and rivets.



A pair may have BOTH an "H" on the back of the main button, but have COBRAX on the back of the other rivets as well. This can be seen on the Boho Bootcuts and Ingrids in Pacific below.





There has been a lot of confusion over which is authentic thanks to an incorrect guide on Ebay. They both are. The incorrect guide states that all pairs of COH must have COBRAX ORIGINAL on the back of the rivets. It also says that if “H’s” are on the rivets the jeans are automatically fake. NOT TRUE! The “H” is on all older pairs of COH. It is not an indicator of authenticity. A newer, more recent pair will have COBRAX ORIGINAL written on the rivets, while older pairs will simply have the "H."

As far as authenticity goes, never ever go by what’s on the back of the rivets. Both the “H” and COBRAX ORIGINAL can be found on fakes.

Tags

Unlike 7 for All Mankind, the inside tags are not always the best to go on for authenticity. Why? Older pairs of COH have a different kind of security strip, as seen below on these Porto Velho Fayes. I tried as hard as I could to read the strip, but no words could be found. That does not make them fake!



Some pairs will have this tag, seen below on these rigid Pacific Fayes.



That particular tag is the very first tag that COH ever did. The oldest pairs of COH will have that tag.

Sometimes you can read the security strip. On the pair above, you cannot. That does not mean that they are fake. I have deduced that certain security strips become warped and even begin to fray at the edges over time and wear. You cannot read these warped tags. COH has long since moved on to bigger and better things.



All of the security strips on the newer pairs above are legible. These are the only kinds of tags that I will look at for authenticity. There are an assortment of strips:
-It may be silver and flat


-Silver and slightly raised


-White and flat


-White and raised.


COH uses all of these strips intermittently. You might also notice that the sizes appear to be different. That’s okay. Don’t freak out if the size number is different from another pair. The bottom tags can be different too. On the older pairs (the Pacific and Porto Velho tags), the bottom tags will be rough and slightly waffled. Like with the older security strips, COH moved on to something else: the silky bottom tags. Both are authentic and are not indicators of authenticity.

You will not be an expert after reading this guide. Spotting real from fake is an acquired skill. If you are unsure about a pair, please feel free to post a thread in this section or shoot me (indypup) a private message.
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:08 PM
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Faye Fakes?

Your guide is very useful! Just wondering if these Faye COH are real or not? They look pretty auth, but just not sure, even with all the great advice...your take? Ebay #260200191513....THANK YOU!!!
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...continued...Faye Fakes?

Just worried because I can tell the other pair that she sold (is selling) is fake...to her credit, she didn't say they were authentic in that listing & in this one I am asking you about (and bidding on) she did. Thanks again for your advice & help!
 
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i'd do a separate thread for these so Rebecca (indypup) sees them. I think the fayes MIGHT (not an expert) be real, but a 32" inseam (unaltered???) seems short to me. The others you mention are fake imo. Indypup can tell you for sure, but create a separate thread in this section for her to respond to.
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"POLY URATHANE" 2 words? Those get a no from me
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:39 PM
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OMG. How my eyes didn't see that the first time, I don't know. I guess too many glasses of wine at dinner with the hubby. Glad I caveated my thought and glad you saw this!
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They're real. The seller has only one other pair of jeans (the fake North Pacifics), and then the rest are random things. They're good to go if you want them.

Also, it will be SO much easier if you post a new thread rather than replying to this one!
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Old 03-12-2009, 05:26 AM
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HELP How DO I get ebay to take off a fake pair???

330313557749

Thanks to all of the expertise here I have learned how to spot a fake pair. ANd these are fake. How do I get ebay to take them off? I have reported but there are still there! HELP!

Citizens Of Humanity Kelly Low Rise Jeans Size 28 ♚ - eBay (item 330313557749 end time Mar-15-09 11:42:32 PDT)
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Old 03-12-2009, 07:31 PM
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Those are fake.

For future reference, please start a new thread!
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:36 PM
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hey, please let me know if these are real or not

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Old 08-04-2009, 06:44 PM
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First of all, this is not an authenticity thread. It's just a guide. You need to start a new thread in this section.

Second, I can't view those pictures from Facebook. I have to be your friend to see them. Upload your pictures to a photo hosting site like Photobucket and I'll be glad to take a look at them.
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:55 PM
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heres a quick view just mines new

it follows the zipper rule but the other ones, im not exactly sure

and i was wondering can the cut number be a three digit?


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CITIZENS OF HUMANITY Women's INGRID # 002 Jeans Size 31 - eBay (item 250470207293 end time Aug-21-09 12:38:43 PDT)
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Old 08-04-2009, 07:02 PM
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Please post a new thread.

However, the ones you linked me to are fake.
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