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Long time no post...I know. Anyway, I was thumbing through the sunscreen thread and noticed that most of the info is pretty out of date. I didn't want to post this there because it seems to get lost in the "sticky" section. I worked at a local beauty boutique for a couple of month last year and had to get trained on all of our brands. The Skinceutical rep told us about new regulations for sunscreens, specifically in makeup products.

Is there a new link that lists the best sunscreens? I have been using Supergoop Serum and Face/Body and want to know if it is any good. I also have a Neutrogena one I use sometimes as well as one from PCA that comes with my post-peel treatment kit. I use a C Serum as well.

Thanks sunscreen pros for any updates and info you can give me!!
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Long time no post...I know. Anyway, I was thumbing through the sunscreen thread and noticed that most of the info is pretty out of date. I didn't want to post this there because it seems to get lost in the "sticky" section. I worked at a local beauty boutique for a couple of month last year and had to get trained on all of our brands. The Skinceutical rep told us about new regulations for sunscreens, specifically in makeup products.

Is there a new link that lists the best sunscreens? I have been using Supergoop Serum and Face/Body and want to know if it is any good. I also have a Neutrogena one I use sometimes as well as one from PCA that comes with my post-peel treatment kit. I use a C Serum as well.

Thanks sunscreen pros for any updates and info you can give me!!
Liz I will look around for some updated info or call one of my reps to see if they have anything for me. What I'm finding that people are loving are the sunscreeens with peptides. The Glo Therapeutics SPF 40 with peptides has been a huge success.
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My dermatologist wants me to use a sunscreen that lists Zinc as a main ingredient. The kind she recommended is Elta MD. I have been using and LOVING it. I have extremely sensitive skin and it's been fabulous.
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Liz I will look around for some updated info or call one of my reps to see if they have anything for me. What I'm finding that people are loving are the sunscreeens with peptides. The Glo Therapeutics SPF 40 with peptides has been a huge success.
I shall check this out!! Charla, do you use PCA peels in your practice?
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Sorry for the multiple posts, but is this the Glo one? BTW, it has ZINC as its first ingredient.

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My dermatologist wants me to use a sunscreen that lists Zinc as a main ingredient. The kind she recommended is Elta MD. I have been using and LOVING it. I have extremely sensitive skin and it's been fabulous.
I use Elta MD Clear too. It was recommended in Allure in an article where dermatologists critiqued women's skincare regimes. It was recommended for women whose sunscreen make them break out. I have only used it a few weeks though so I can't say if it's a total success yet.
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Sorry for the multiple posts, but is this the Glo one? BTW, it has ZINC as its first ingredient.

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Its this one Liz. SPF 40 Facial Moisturizer
I have heard of the brand PCA but never tried it. We use Glo peels and the VI. (most of the peels we do are physician grade.)
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Does anyone have an updated list? I can't find anything that we don't already know.
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I haven't found a new link but in my reading on MUA, it seemed that the consensus was to avoid Parsol. Am I reading that correctly?
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I haven't found a new link but in my reading on MUA, it seemed that the consensus was to avoid Parsol. Am I reading that correctly?
Yeah I read that too.

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hi Liz i am no expert, but i have been WAY into sunscreen and i'm always searching, educating myself and trying to find the perfect sunscreen since my melanoma a year and a half ago.

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I haven't found a new link but in my reading on MUA, it seemed that the consensus was to avoid Parsol. Am I reading that correctly?
i would advise to definitely avoid parasol, and of course anything with avobenzone and oxtinoxate in combination. (this is what the docs think caused my melanoma )

i just looked up the ingredients of your supergoop and it seems like the PPD would be fair (prbly around 15-17?) however imo that is a lot of chemicals Homosalate 8%, Octisalate 4%, Avobenzene 3%, Octocrylene 2%

my favorite physical sunscreen right now is hydropeptide's SPF 30 it has zinc 6% and titanium 2.5%. i would love to find one with a higher zinc content that still looks great but i love that i can put this one all over my face, right on my eyelids with zero stinging and it makes my skin tone really nice and even, i never need foundation when wearing this, but if i want a little extra it works great as a base for my mineral makeup

i can't report on how well the hydropeptide actually works in the summer (i was using kinerase photofacials 50 spf last summer loved it but they stopped making it) but my daughter has battled with melasma for years and switched to hydropeptide a year ago and her melasma has cleared up substantially supposedly the antioxidants and peptides in the hydropeptide boost the sunscreen effects

i love that the glo has Matrixyl in it but i do not like that it has copper peptides. from what i understand copper peptides create free radicals when mixed with C serum and i use skinceuticals C serum every morning and it sounds like you use a C serum in the morning too Liz

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My dermatologist wants me to use a sunscreen that lists Zinc as a main ingredient. The kind she recommended is Elta MD. I have been using and LOVING it. I have extremely sensitive skin and it's been fabulous.
are you using the EltaMD UV PHYSICAL SPF 41? that looks like a good one do you like the finish? does it sting your eyes? i am going to have to give it a try unfortunately the others all have oxtinoxate in them (which is a good sunscreen, i just can't do the chemicals anymore )

i hope that helps Liz and if anyone has any other suggestions for physical sunscreens i would love to hear them
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So I totally forgot about this thread!! I am going to try the hydropeptide sunscreen.

I did something, that against my better judgement, I shouldn't have and now I think I am starting all over again with my skincare. I got harassed into trying Obagi and after 3 months of ZERO results and a face that looks like a shedding snake, I have determined that the results are due to their shitty sunscreen. The shedding snake is from not finding a good balance with the RetinA. Anyway, I am looking for a new regimen but for starters I am quitting the Obagi and starting with a new sunscreen. thank goodness I only bought a travel size kit and it is almost gone. I'm so freaking mad right now!!

maureenmarie, so sorry to hear about the melanoma!! where was it? what did you have to do treatment-wise? I had a place cut off my arm that was squamous-cell (I think) that left an inch long scar. They cut a pretty big hunk out of my flesh to get clear margins, though. I go every 6 months for check up's now. I have heard about lots of people who have melanoma's on their scalp! Scary!!
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^ I am SO scared of melanoma. I watched documentaries on it where there were like 14-21 year old's getting it on their scalp, forehead, and arms. I am scared to go in a tanning bed for that very reason, BUT then again I like to have a nice tan. Good thing I tan easily and not burn.
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I have to say, after cutting dairy completely from my diet and getting off sunscreen (too oily) but skin has been really good for a long time now. All I do is just apply Paula's Choice 2% BHA day and night and some lip balm. Yeah...I cannot believe I am still using PC after all these years. Not sure if it is good now that I am dependent on it.

Eating dairy completely messes with my skin and causes big zits, usually one mildly bad one. FML. Still considering a nice sun screen but whatever works for now. Hmm.

FWIW when I read all the sun screen talk here before it scared the shit out of me, but TBH even when my face has one too many moles (tiny to medium), I just rather go without SS at the moment since I literally get a glaze over my face by the end of the day. I know there has to be something out there for me =\. Is Jen still around?
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^ i still use paula's choice too Jenn hasn't been here in a year and a half makes me very sad because i could sure use her advice

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So I totally forgot about this thread!! I am going to try the hydropeptide sunscreen.
i think you will love it! i used it all last summer and had no hyperpigmentation at all (i always wear a hat in the sun though) i love the consistency and the sheer coverage. be forewarned, it does turn darker to match your skin tone so if you put it on your chest/shoulders it will stain your light colored clothing. i now use NIA 24 mineral sunscreen or or one of Burnouts sunscreens (they are all 3 good imo) for my chest and shoulders but always use the hydropeptide on my face .

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I did something, that against my better judgement, I shouldn't have and now I think I am starting all over again with my skincare. I got harassed into trying Obagi and after 3 months of ZERO results and a face that looks like a shedding snake, I have determined that the results are due to their shitty sunscreen. The shedding snake is from not finding a good balance with the RetinA. Anyway, I am looking for a new regimen but for starters I am quitting the Obagi and starting with a new sunscreen. thank goodness I only bought a travel size kit and it is almost gone. I'm so freaking mad right now!!
sorry Liz, i hate it when i get sucked into the sales pitches, i have lost so much $$$$ that way!! imo obagi is far overated

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maureenmarie, so sorry to hear about the melanoma!! where was it? what did you have to do treatment-wise? I had a place cut off my arm that was squamous-cell (I think) that left an inch long scar. They cut a pretty big hunk out of my flesh to get clear margins, though. I go every 6 months for check up's now. I have heard about lots of people who have melanoma's on their scalp! Scary!!
ugh it was on my face right side of my nose to be exact. thankfully after they removed a quarter size piece of me it ended up being stage 0 so no radiation or chemo required. all is well other than a nasty scar (physically and mentally) i go every 3 months now just to be sure... it was super scary i'm so sorry to hear about your squamous! those can be pretty nasty too darn sun

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^ I am SO scared of melanoma. I watched documentaries on it where there were like 14-21 year old's getting it on their scalp, forehead, and arms. I am scared to go in a tanning bed for that very reason, BUT then again I like to have a nice tan. Good thing I tan easily and not burn.
DON'T go to a tanning bed, there is a 70% higher chance of melanoma if you have gone to a tanning bed trust me on this one
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I heard if you burn in the tanning bed your chances are higher... Not saying I am in the clear but I don't burn. Melanoma runs in my family BAD, so it's scary!
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i'm sure burning either natural or artificial makes your chances higher, but i NEVER burned in a tanning bed, i was always very careful and actually thought i was protecting myself from skin cancer by tanning and not burning this was in the 80's and early 90's when no one knew (or discussed) the dangers and even the dermatologists were sending me to tanning beds for various skin issues

i haven't heard that though, i would just not ever go again for any reason 70% higher chance is HUGE actually i think it is even higher, like 73or 74%
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I just love the heat an being tan, But your right it's not worth the chance of dying from cancer. I have friends my age (20's) that have had cancer
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oh that is terrible makes me so sad!

i LOVE the heat too! that is what i miss the most, it is sooooo relaxing.. i got my car windows UVA/UVB tinted to 99.9% including my windshield so sometimes i just get inside the car and bake it is wonderful, we also have a sauna now so that helps too
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I have to say, after cutting dairy completely from my diet and getting off sunscreen (too oily) but skin has been really good for a long time now. All I do is just apply Paula's Choice 2% BHA day and night and some lip balm. Yeah...I cannot believe I am still using PC after all these years. Not sure if it is good now that I am dependent on it.

Eating dairy completely messes with my skin and causes big zits, usually one mildly bad one. FML. Still considering a nice sun screen but whatever works for now. Hmm.

FWIW when I read all the sun screen talk here before it scared the shit out of me, but TBH even when my face has one too many moles (tiny to medium), I just rather go without SS at the moment since I literally get a glaze over my face by the end of the day. I know there has to be something out there for me =\. Is Jen still around?
You might have good luck with EltaMD UV Clear. I don't think I have skin/dairy issues, but I do need to use the PC 2% BHA to keep my skin clear. Most sunscreens have dimethicone which breaks me out, but EltaMD UV Clear doesn't, and by using PC and EltaMD, I never gets zits anymore. (Unless I use a different sunscreen to reapply.)

I'm sooooo terrified of melanoma. It runs in my family, and I've had many sunburns. I am only 28 but I do yearly mole checks and have already had 2 moles removed, one of which was abnormal.

Plus, fear of looking older doesn't help. Since moving to California where the sun is stronger, I feel like I've aged a lot.

Maureen, why do you have to use a mineral sunscreen on your face? If it does not have avobenzone and oxinoxate (sp?) together, is chemical okay? Mine is zinc oxide (9%) and oxinoxate (7.5%).

Maureen and Liz, I'm sorry you two have had to deal with skin cancer. That is so scary!
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^ It runs in my family as well, and when I went to my Grandma's skin Doctor I was told that I have a very high chance of getting it if I continue being in the sun (not sure why that is..) I was like 15 at the time and when we would go to our second home in AZ during the summer I would literally live outside I was SO dark (but never burnt) so I never put on sunscreen. I am still not sure I believe that it's hereditary and I have a better chance of it because my family members have had it.
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i'm sure burning either natural or artificial makes your chances higher, but i NEVER burned in a tanning bed, i was always very careful and actually thought i was protecting myself from skin cancer by tanning and not burning this was in the 80's and early 90's when no one knew (or discussed) the dangers and even the dermatologists were sending me to tanning beds for various skin issues

i haven't heard that though, i would just not ever go again for any reason 70% higher chance is HUGE actually i think it is even higher, like 73or 74%
I don't blame you Maureen, tanning beds are awful for your skin.
I will never get in a tanning bed ever again. You don't have to burn to get skin cancer from a tanning bed.
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^ they are terrible i'm lucky in that my skin still looks good (especially for my age) but i am a ticking time bomb for wrinkles and more melanomas

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Maureen, why do you have to use a mineral sunscreen on your face? If it does not have avobenzone and oxinoxate (sp?) together, is chemical okay? Mine is zinc oxide (9%) and oxinoxate (7.5%).
i don't have to, supposedly it is safe many of the department store cosmetics still use that combo, LaMer just recently switched to zinc oxide which makes me very happy i am just not risking the chemicals. after going through what i went through it is just my own personal choice. i literally have panic attacks if i think i may have a chemical sunscreen on me. i just had a micro today and the nurse applied a sunscreen without my knowledge and when i found out i was until i looked at the ingredients and it was all physical i am crazed
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^ It runs in my family as well, and when I went to my Grandma's skin Doctor I was told that I have a very high chance of getting it if I continue being in the sun (not sure why that is..) I was like 15 at the time and when we would go to our second home in AZ during the summer I would literally live outside I was SO dark (but never burnt) so I never put on sunscreen. I am still not sure I believe that it's hereditary and I have a better chance of it because my family members have had it.
there is totally a hereditary propensity don't gamble that one Debbie! hit the google search button ....

and that is exactly how i was, i was constantly complimented on my tan, never burned, never wore sunscreen, had a gorgeous copper tan at all times, was always shocked when people around me were burned or applying sunscreen ... thought i was protected so stupid
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